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sludgeguts said:
How interesting - an electric lawnmower - so not allowed to use in the rain (for obvious reasons). Only ones I've ever seen on those things have been the simple push fits. Thanks for the heads up as I was kinda hitting a brick wall.
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If your planning on making it a permanent fixture that could be used in any weather I think your only choice would be "Clipsal" weatherproof range as they are small compared to others. I'm sure they changed there name recently but I'm sure you could track down the parts you need.

Edit.(but no stock)
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_In...of_Accessories_Index/Wproof_CP_All/index.html
 

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Just looked in more detail at these connectors, they are only 2 core/pin. The lead out of the preheater is 3 core (2 + E) - wondering if I can get away with not providing earth as the heater will not be touching any metal car body. Only contact through the hose in and out and maybe a cable tie holding it firmly to something (I'll have to provide insulation between this & the car body).
 
The cable that comes with it is only 3' long so I'd have to leave it fixed up under the bonnet somewhere it never gets wet but I was kinda hoping to maybe rewire with a lead long enough to get to the outside world & a socket either built into the bumper or somewhere convenient (like beside the towbar) just for less hassle setting up at night and detaching next morning.
 
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Whilst looking for the clipsal product, I was also directed to Blagdon ... 3 pin and takes up to 2200watts - so 200 more than the heater (y)
A pity the supplied cover is on the socket - but maybe the plug's internals can be swapped with the socket's 'just in case' I happened to plug the extension lead in first, leaving 3 exposed pins (with one live).
If not then I would have to make a routine of plugging into the car first, locking up then making my way to the house to plug in the other end and unplugging at the house first thing in the morning...
I could possibly remove the cable gland at the rear, slide the (hopefully now swapped over) plug in a bracket & epoxy it into place - pointing slightly downwards to deflect ingress of water etc.
 
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sludgeguts said:
Just looked in more detail at these connectors, they are only 2 core/pin.
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I guess your referring to the IEC plug as the Clipsal ones are deffinately 3 core, I used 2 of them on my old caravan to supply power for outdoor lighting.


sludgeguts said:
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Whilst looking for the clipsal product, I was also directed to Blagdon ... 3 pin and takes up to 2200watts - so 200 more than the heater (y)
A pity the supplied cover is on the socket - but maybe the plug's internals can be swapped with the socket's 'just in case' I happened to plug the extension lead in first, leaving 3 exposed pins (with one live).
If not then I would have to make a routine of plugging into the car first, locking up then making my way to the house to plug in the other end and unplugging at the house first thing in the morning...
I could possibly remove the cable gland at the rear, slide the (hopefully now swapped over) plug in a bracket & epoxy it into place - pointing slightly downwards to deflect ingress of water etc.
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Its worth a try but I'm sure if you continue looking you'll find exactly what you need. Caravan electrics would be a likely candidate for what you need.

You seem to prefer the Cable to Cable option over the Plug to Socket option so perhaps something like this would suffice.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WATERPROOF-CABLE-CONNECTOR-IP68-KOI-FISH-POND-GARDEN-/160657843484

Its a Cable to Cable option used for pond equipment etc. similar to the one in your post but its rated much higher, safe to completely submerge and has a separate screw on cap that just might be on the pin side, not the plug?
 
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I was referring to the flymo kit.
I searched the web for the clipsal ones & found them but the single socket is similar size as a standard weatherproof (give or take) at 107x101x82mm (MK weatherproof is 95x95x80mm). Hence my wondering more about the inline stuff - especially if I can cobble something together to secure it to a towing socket plate.
I put the pic of the blagdon as I couldn't find any ratings for the bermuda.

I looked at what was available for caravan hookups etc but it seems they use stuff widely available & really too big to fix to my car.
 
None to speak of. the Bermuda connector you linked to is actually 3 bits of a strip connector inside a waterproof casing. Bermuda do manufacture a plug/socket arrangement but I have yet to get an email back from them confirming the rating.

So it's either the bermuda or the blagdon and I can hopefully mount it in a towing socket plate to bolt behind my towball & run the cable along the underside of the car (I've even got some plastic oval conduit somewhere to give added protection) to the heater.
Apologies for not replying sooner, the broadband's been down in this area all day.
 
Good news, the blagdon plug & socket is rated at a maximum of 16amps so it should be good for around 3.8kw. Not cheap at around £15 but best I've seen.
just got to get my act together now, buy the bits and fit them. Trouble is, I've got 101 things going on at the moment so this is the least of my worries. At least if I buy the bits I can get everything set up and good to go, ready for when I have the time.
Watch out for a thread resurrection during the next ice age :eek:
 
The plug/socket arrived today. It's actually a Bulgin, standard Buccaneer range item and according to their specs sheet, it's rated at a maximum of 12amps - so around 2.8kw. But still way more than I need, so that's a plus (and £7.50 dearer than the blagdon).
Anyhoo, on the upside, the insides are interchangeable so I can have the pins in the holder attached to my car with a screw on cover & the part attached to the mains now has the socket so if it ever were to be live when I'm connecting, the contacts can't be accidentally touched.
As well as this, the part I intend to attach to my car has a 5mm lip which I should be able to epoxy to a bracket for stability - and maybe add a jubilee clip to the rear 'just in case'.
 
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