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Bio Diesel Kit only £295

I do not wish to boring as I can see this has been discussed already over the past couple of weeks, but I am still confused. Can I run my 2008 1.3 Diesel van on 100% Bio Diesel? As you can see with this kit
yorkshiregreenfuels.co.uk
you can make huge savings on your fuel, I paid £1.33.9 at Tesco in Durham today and it cost £72 to fill my van!!!!!
Hope someone can shed some light on this as I will buy this kit if I can use the fuel in my van. Thanks in Advance
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Re: Bio Diesel Kit only £295

http://greenfuels.co.uk/

I think this is the link

sounds ok as Goat Industries charge about £2,000 for their kit although it's huge and they will come round and install it at that price.
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don't know where you got the price from as their cheapest kit is nearly £1,200 going up to £3,500
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Re: Bio Diesel Kit only £295

Hi Please copy and past the link as it is not greenfuels.co.uk it is yorkshiregreenfuels.co.uk and they are only £295
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Hi Please copy and past the link as it is not greenfuels.co.uk it is yorkshiregreenfuels.co.uk and they are only £295
Here it is

http://yorkshiregreenfuels.co.uk/index.asp

Looks a useful tool to make fuel, but from the other posts, I don't think it's a silver bullet for those with the more modern engines.
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looks good now I've seen the right website (sorry about that )

there is a catch though, it's only for use with new oil or pre-filtered oil so you would have to buy a filtering kit as well.
I'm sure something could be knocked up though, there's a vid on youtube about how to filter used veg oil for use as Diesel, and they make it look easy.
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Re: Bio Diesel Kit only £295

Warm up the veg oil, mix with methanol & caustic soda.
Veg oil is relatively cheap but what about the methanol & caustic soda?
(and what do these do to the veg oil and, more importantly, the engine?)
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I ran for several years on 100% veg with my surf.

If you can decently filter WVO AND it's not been used to cook meat you should be able to use it in a 50/50 mix ok

just have a spare filter handy.



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A wee bit of lubrication before you shove it in (saves chafing, apparently)
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If I'd just bought an old dog for a grand then I'd have no qualms whatsoever about chucking a few gallons of veg oil into the tank. As it is, I've forked out a lot of money on a fairly new motor & so don't want to take any risks.
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Re: Bio Diesel Kit only £295

Thanks for the help all - I plan on using new oil as I do not fancy using used oil, should I be o.k using this kit on my 2008 1.3 diesel?
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Originally Posted by 500-fan View Post
Thanks for the help all - I plan on using new oil as I do not fancy using used oil, should I be o.k using this kit on my 2008 1.3 diesel?
Thanks again
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Diesels were designed to run on veg oil so the engine should be ok, it's all the other parts before the oil gets to the engine that could cause a problem as they might be designed to be lubricated with a mineral Diesel oil.
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Diesels were designed to run on veg oil so the engine should be ok, it's all the other parts before the oil gets to the engine that could cause a problem as they might be designed to be lubricated with a mineral Diesel oil.
Exactly. The diesel has to go through a shedload of processes before it is squirted through miniscule jets into the cylinders & fuel companies were clever to have spotted the niche diesel market & adapt it as their own. It seems as though successive 'improvements' over the years have beebn little more than smokescreens to prevent owners from simply emptying the contents of their chip pan into the tank.
Anyone know what caustic soda would do to the inside of some of the bits of the engine?
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Thanks for the help all - I plan on using new oil as I do not fancy using used oil, should I be o.k using this kit on my 2008 1.3 diesel?
Thanks again
Sorry about the first post but can not post links yet, until I have had 5 posts?
Just curious what are the warranty aspects as regards using HOMEMADE FUEL I'll put money on it that fiat will run a mile from any claims on faulty injectors,fuel pumps, fuel lines etc.

Home made fuel please if its come to this that you can buy a brand new car but have to make your own fuel. Its a bit "GOOD LIFE" tom and barbara, next we will be sitting on a bike in the garden for hours to generating enough electicity to power a small toaster and keeping 10 pigs to get the S**T so as to make methane. to keep warm.

The costs for any damage to your hi tec common rail diesel would negate all cost savings of a few pence a litre of diy derv!!

Cheaper to buy an old beast of a diesel for a few quid and see how you go.

The day I have to become a mad scientest and have to brew a couple of litrs before nipping to tescos then its back on the push bike or walk!!!!!
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Cheaper to buy an old beast of a diesel for a few quid and see how you go.
this was done on TV not long ago (can't remember which programme).
the guy bought a knackered old Merc Diesel to see if he could drive it from somewhere near Manchester, I think, to the east coast, poss Whitby, using only veg oil.
Not only did he use veg oil, he stopped at chip shops along the way and blagged their waste oil from them. To make it even worse (or better if you're into this idea) he didn't even filter the stuff . It had lumps of batter and all sorts floating in it and he poured it straight into the tank.
The car made it from coast to coast, only developing a very slight misfire near the end, probably caused by a fish head stuck in the fuel filter, and a very slight drop in performance.
If I had an old banger of a Diesel I wouldn't hesitate to try this. I'd probably make some sort of effort to filter it first though.
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Originally Posted by RichDoblo120 View Post
this was done on TV not long ago (can't remember which programme).
the guy bought a knackered old Merc Diesel to see if he could drive it from somewhere near Manchester, I think, to the east coast, poss Whitby, using only veg oil.
Not only did he use veg oil, he stopped at chip shops along the way and blagged their waste oil from them. To make it even worse (or better if you're into this idea) he didn't even filter the stuff . It had lumps of batter and all sorts floating in it and he poured it straight into the tank.
The car made it from coast to coast, only developing a very slight misfire near the end, probably caused by a fish head stuck in the fuel filter, and a very slight drop in performance.
If I had an old banger of a Diesel I wouldn't hesitate to try this. I'd probably make some sort of effort to filter it first though.
Rich agree entirely a big old banger lump of an engine fill it with anything to hand but NOT a high tec common rail diesel.

Apparently do you know that the injector assembly for modern diesels is done under " white coat conditions" masks, high air filtration systems etc.

So to then shove chip fat and diy derv through them is a sin!

Its bad enough if you get a bad dose of supermarket diesel it can run rough.

remember when LPG was all the rage and was the answer to all our prayers never really took off as I'm sure DIY derv won't.

Quite simply its too time consuming would rather spend time with my children then brewing up a batch
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