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Old 23-08-2008   #16
 
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Not pissed or preaching simply saying given the cost of the kit one would have to pay to have this fitted to a new car what I was asking wasn't unreasonable. After all I'm sure the dealer would bump the price up a few hundred simply because the kits there.

It's actually fitted with a serial code which is unique to the car never mind the model so it would be pretty useless in another vehicle unless Fiat were prepared to change the code.

Point is I think the unit is worth £500 on the used market whether someone's prepared to pay it or attempt to fit it is their choice. Of course the last two posters have valid points and unfortunately the residue value of Fiat is pretty poor any how so I only have myself to blame for buying the car from a Fiat dealer and paying top dollar.

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i think these dealers are offering people less for cars than they can sell them for, then selling them on for a profit like some sort of business, the gits
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Hellcat you tell that Bunny to hop it I'll sell the car if I wish he's just lucky I'm in a good mood otherwise rabbit stew could be on the menu

Dave you know what I think you could be right!!!! There's a slight difference between a profit and killing though which is what these fools want to do to me if they think I'll sell the car (and I use the term car loosely after all it is a Fiat) for what they offered. The cheeky gits even tried to bribe me with a free bowl of Frosties, I nearly bit the hands off trying to get to em but then realised I'd just eaten 2 witty forum members an hour earlier ROOOAR.
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Hellcat you tell that Bunny to hop it I'll sell the car if I wish he's just lucky I'm in a good mood otherwise rabbit stew could be on the menu
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There's a slight difference between a profit and killing though which is what these fools want to do to me if they think I'll sell the car (and I use the term car loosely after all it is a Fiat) for what they offered.
Not really, that car (if you do sell it) has to be repaired (parts & labour), valeted, advertised, taxed, mot'd (if applicable) then make a moderate profit...now add that little lot up & its easy to see the garage will obviously offer you much less than you are expecting.

The trick to selling a car is to find someone who wants it so much that they are prepared (or blind) to overlook any faults/costs/price, trying to sell someone a car they dont want is near impossible, in other words what it is worth to you is not what its worth to someone else wether it is a Fiat or not. Buy a Alfa or a mondeo then you will know what depreaction is really all about
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i think these dealers are offering people less for cars than they can sell them for, then selling them on for a profit like some sort of business, the gits
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You don't believe these dealers actually carry out repairs prior to sale they don't even spot check them it's all too expensive. They simply pay some poor sod minimum wage to valet it then on the forecourt it goes. If its test driven and a faults picked up by the potential buyer the sales rep agrees to fix it prior to collection. Whether that's actually done is another matter there all Arthur Daleys the lot of em.

Now there is something wrong with my vehicle and from the sounds most new Cromas but it's probably down to faulty connection besides it's under warranty all work carried out so far as been paid for by Fiat and should there be further issues then all parts are covered for a further twelve months. I certainly wouldn't sell the car private without resolving the current issue, as for the dealers hell yes I'd sell them a bag of fresh air if they'd buy it off me.
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You don't believe these dealers actually carry out repairs prior to sale they don't even spot check them it's all too expensive. They simply pay some poor sod minimum wage to valet it then on the forecourt it goes. If its test driven and a faults picked up by the potential buyer the sales rep agrees to fix it prior to collection. Whether that's actually done is another matter there all Arthur Daleys the lot of em.
Afraid I disagree, it's my job to check they have been done
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Well if that's the case which dealership are you a tech I think I'll come and purchase my next car from you. Provided you give me £6k for mine and 0% with no deposit over 5 years, oh yes I'm the customer from hell I need a pet hellcat you interested in a home...............
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I work at different garages & meet customers from hell everyday,part of the job
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Just seen a 2007 2.2 petrol eleganza with sat nav for £8500
Advertising something for a price doesn't make it worth that price.

Any car is worth what somebody is willing to pay for it.

The mere fact that this Croma is still for sale proves it isn't worth that much.
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it looks like Tony boy hasn't sold his motor yet
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Glasses GUIDE.
exactly what it says, GUIDE!
just because it says the car is worth "blob" doesnt mean it is.
The area the car is been sold in, the condition, the general market, the colour, mileage condition etc.
Dont take Glasses as gospel cos as you have found out, it's a load of balls to the actual market.
Take your car to glasses and get them to pay the book price for it and see what they say.
As TI has stated, repairs, valet, marketing etc all cost money, dealers arent there as a charity for you.
You want everything but not prepared to budge on your price, funny that.
you think 0% is free?
you think "free servicing" is free?
you think the drop in price on the forecourt for the poor market stability means yours hasnt dropped in price also?

Look at the situation again and take a reality check

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Yes well I'm not one of the idiots who goes along to the dealer and buys a car with free road tax, free 1 years insurance, free fluffy dice and his and hers sun visor sticker then signs a finance agreement at 14.9 APR. When without the so called freebies I could of had it for say 7.9 APR and saved a packet on interest repayments.

It's funny how a few years ago when Glasses was not available to the pubic dealers would swear by it and put down good old Parkers. Now though it's some other bible that they swear by. You are quite right though it is a guide but although they can't physically inspect the car it does ask for age, mileage before giving you a guide price.

As for dealers being there as a charity solely for my benefit of course there not but if they want my business then they will give me a New Vauxhall Astra on 0% over 5 years or a very good APR or I'll walk. And believe you me there are plenty who will laugh when I've gone calling me atosser but just down the road or the other side of town there's someone else who wants my business that's how I buy my cars.......

And I haven't used public transport for a very long time?
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Yes well I'm not one of the idiots who goes along to the dealer and buys a car with free road tax, free 1 years insurance, free fluffy dice and his and hers sun visor sticker then signs a finance agreement at 14.9 APR. When without the so called freebies I could of had it for say 7.9 APR and saved a packet on interest repayments.

It's funny how a few years ago when Glasses was not available to the pubic dealers would swear by it and put down good old Parkers. Now though it's some other bible that they swear by. You are quite right though it is a guide but although they can't physically inspect the car it does ask for age, mileage before giving you a guide price.
I would say if you arent happy about what you are getting for the car as a px then sell it private and sign an agreement for the new car with no trade in.
you want your cake and eat it, that is the only way you will manage it, unless they are seriously desperate to shift stock
Buyers all seem to think that when the market is quiet and dealers say that prices on used cars are bad that their own personal car is still worth the money it was 6 months ago.
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