Are there switched live and permanent live wires on the front of body computer/fuse box? i need both for a dashcam if any one knows what ones they are it will be a big help.

There are almost certainly both. For permanent unstitched feed then radio feed is one, as is the door puddle light feed, and the interior lights feeds.

Very annoyingly the cig. lighter socket is switched.

eLearn will have the wirings.

i havent got elearn, i though i did but cant find it

Croma eLEARN is in the downloads section: https://www.fiatforum.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=19
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Davren said:

Croma eLEARN is in the downloads section: https://www.fiatforum.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=19
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i have no cd or dvd burner its busted think mrs daves laptop has one though i'll have to be nice so she lets me use it

is this 8 seperate cd's or do i some how make 1 dvd out of all of them? ( i'm sure i used to know this ) ive got a virtual cd/dvd drive i could use if i get this right


edit, seems to be working with just the iso from number 1

You need to download all 8 parts into the same folder, then point WinRAR at part 1. That will unzip all 8 parts into an image file named "Croma eLEARN.iso"

Use the image file to burn a disc, then install eLEARN from the disc.
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its installed can see the radio bits, cant see body computer, maybe i need sleep first

yay think i've found it. an with no disc used at all :slayer:

Hi Dave

Hope you have sussed this.

I meant to add on my original post that I was "out of town for 3 weeks on a business trip" so would be unable to follow-up etc., otherwise I would have dug around my eLearn for you.

i still haven't worked it out
i get this far but after that i get web page can't be displayed
i also have no idea what plug that it refers too

could the permanent live to radio be only 1.5v? as that is all i am getting from red wire on blue plug

No it should be around 11.5 - 12.5 with the engine off and 13.5+ with it running. You've just found one of the canbus signal wires by the sound of it.
If my memory serves me correctly, the yellow is the permanent and the red is the switched live. It might be the other way around though.
It should be easy enough because they will be thicker than the other wires and are usually by the black (earth) wire.

the only red isnt in the iso( think that's the name the big plug) its in this seperate blue plug and isnt thick.

Edit found it, its pink,

ah pin 10 on the brown plug body comp seems to be a switched live, and a red n yellow wire going to biggest plug also seems to be a permanent live.

so is it ok to tap into these or is 1 for air bags or some thing else i shouldn't touch

decided going to play it safe and take perm live from radio, and switched from accessory socket, as i still can't find a switched live on radio is it possible there isnt one and its taken internally via CAN from the permenant live?