Found this at pc world in bradford today, acer aspire, athlon 4000+ 64x2, 1gd ram, 160gb hdd, 8 channel sound, vista home premium, dvd rw, 300 quid!, was cheaper than buying bits so we bought one just in case ever needed one, pci express slot on mobo, 3 pci slots, seems good vfm, gonna stick it all in alienware box, stick a geforce 7950gtx gfx card on and use a creative x-fi fatality sfx card and should have a fairly cheap quick pc !