(G) Standard 106 GTi Vs Sei 1.4 Turbo

Hi Everyone

Current chatting to a friend about what would be faster, according to a few websites the 106 GTI 0-60 is 7.4. What roughly would it be for Sei 1.4 Turbo??

I ask because currently mine roughly goes 8.5, and am thinking of upgrading mine to 1.4 Turbo.

Friend would be interested on Track Day Drag race against me, would like to know if I would win, before/after up grade!!

Tony

106 is better on twisty bits no matter what you do.

A properly sorted Sei 1.4 Turbo would beat the 106 GTI any day any time with ease. Problem is to sort the 1.4 Turbo properly as it would cost a lot of money. With the modifications you have done I can't see it doing 8.5 seconds from 0-60mph unless the modifications in your signature aren't complete.

The 0-60 figures aren't evrything. The story will look ever so much in favour of the 1.4 Turbo at the end of the drag strip if you will be able to control the torque steer.

75 Cam upgrade, Chipped, remap, no rear seats

i gave a 106 gti a run for its money with the 1.1 high boost turbo ... he wasn't impressed.

i'd say a 1.4 conversion would be an awful lot of effort, and like pete says, pricey to do it properly

Where did you get you Turbo from, how much would it cost all together including fitting, pls, am guess would effect insurance also???

Its the vanaaken turbo kit (waits for oldschools opinion on it )... they have one left on the shelf (you have to put it on yourself) but its a low blow kit, runs about 85 brake.

you'd have to get yourself sorted with some lower compression pistons and an oil cooler etc to run higher boost. although really the low blow kit should have an oil cooler anyway imo.

Let me just clarify what i've just written... the low boost kit runs on the standard pistons and is literally a bolt on kit, it'll run at 0.3 bar boost, whereas the high boost kit (which u can't buy anymore sadly, i got mine off ebay and had to rebuild the engine) runs at 0.5 bar (mine was running 0.6 )

As far as insurance goes, its still a 1.1 so its not that bad. I'm paying £475 tpft with HIC insurance, thats with 2 yrs no claims and 3 points on my liscence.

How much would the kit cost, and how easy would it be to fit???

you'd have to talk to vanakken themselves www.vanaaken.com

Me and my dad literally rebuilt mine as it had melted pistons.
we had to rewire the second injector controller ourselves.

something to bear in mind is that if you do fit the kit yourself you still need to have it set up, otherwise u run the risk of blowing things like i have

i'd definitly recommend a turbo conversion but make sure you know what your taking on.

Price wise i'd say your looking at probably £800 for the kit itself, then add more for them fitting it for you.
thats just a rough guide, i bought a whole turbo'd car off ebay albeit knackered for £700.
i spend a good few hundred on it being sorted tho.
Like i say tho talk to vanaaken about the kit, they may be able to fit it for you, but they don't advertise the cinq/sei turbos on their site anymore.

the gti would be my choice, it has more stability (easier to drive it to the max in a straight line), no lag (important in a drag race), and whenever i race one it always shocks me how fast they pull away.

i've seen a saxo vts lose to a punto GT more than once (modified to be fair tho), if you consider a VTS is bascially the same as the GTI, but a sei with a 1.4turbo lump will be lighter than a punto GT, it implies the sei will leave the gti once the turbo kicks in. if the sei doesnt rip apart first.

even better would be to save the money for a safe drag car and leave the turbo'd rollerskate antics to someone who wants to die.

Dont think they sell the kit anymore.

no they don't but tis common knowledge amongst turbo cinq owner ppl that they got one kit left on the shelf

And yea would be much easier to start with a 106 gti... but its not a fiat

106 GTI would eat it on a track. 1.4 turbo sei is too much weight at the front. that engine is far too heavy for a cento. unless you are talking 1368cc 16v turbo, or just boring straight line races, then ok yeah maybe

They dont have any left-I phoned them the other day and one guy said they had a kit left then I spoke to a guy in the workshop and he said that they havent??

I pulled away from a 206 GTi 180 and its faster than a 106, but having had a 106 rallye Mk1 it would see off with ease a Cinq/Sei cross country, I held off an Imprezza turbo and in fact pulled out an advantage over one cross country on the twits he coudl only recatch me again on the straights.