Can anyone recommend a good rolling road that can cater for cars that would need a MF2 fiddling with?

Just come off the phone to van aaken and they cant do it as they only do diesels now

AVA turbos, just behind Glasgow Airport.

Cheers

D

Or that place in Newton Stewart that Custard was going to use.

Liam

http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/ long drive for you but seem to use the MF2 anyway

Company called TTS at Silverstone will set it up for you thats who Emma is taking her car to as the guy who runs its is a friend of her dad, once he has played with her car he will be able to do it as he said that MF2 are easy to set up but hasn't done a Cinq turbo yet.

Don't have contact details but sure they will be listed, or wait and see if Emma has them.

Aaron.

think will give em a shout when get a chance then Cheers D and liam/custard but bit of a trek for me

Not sure what to prioritise at the mo... decat and oil cooler stuff (need to speak with em again about the oil cooler, need details of where she moved her oil feed to for turbo ) or prioritise the RR setup/printout, im guessing oil cooler and decat first as i want the boost upping slightly when oil cooler on so silly to set it all up then add decat and more boost (when oil cooler fitted) so it'll need to be set up again

It does need to be setup though, has a bit of a miss when first coming on boost (even part throttle) and the RR i got at donny shows a very weird torque and power curve in that it flies up to 90-95 (iirc?) at the fly but then ~~ wobbles like that at the 90-95 bhp, cant remember torque figure, but im not convinced they gave it full throttle as they said they didnt want to push it due to a split oil hose

Latest RR prints i have from donny are below, it was well down on power (with a bigger TB than before!) and the torque and power curves both buggered off somewhere...


although he didnt push it as had a split oil return from the turbo and didnt want to wreck his rollers or my engine...so dont know if he gave it full throttle or not... plus only took it to 5,500 rpm which would really indicate he wasnt pushing it, so really it may not need the tune up so desperately?

guessing it'd be very risky to up boost to a bar or so without the oil cooler first

Mate i wouldn't even run your car as it is without an oil cooler, never mind more boost, we saw near 150degrees on Emma's car when it was running low boost setting during run in period, and that was only on the 14miles on M1 from Northampton to Milton Keynes at 80PMH.

The boost could be due to waste gate creep due to it being old, i noticed your car has bleed valve on it last time i looked, sure fire way of trying to overcome a tired turbo wastegate, cracks all over turbo which is v.v.probable on these cars as its not uncommon to get hairline cracks on turbos anyway, but with no cooling to the oil, & it being the only thing protecting the bearings on these cars, it could have bigger cracks which leak boost (mine did this tho due to wastegate jamming so ran 1.5bar at first then leaked away once cracks opened up with heat expansion, lol), especially if turbo has done more than 30K with no cooler.

i would also measured the compression ratio as if its not lower than 8.6:1 then detonation is a real problem, mine runs 8.2:1 VAD machined the pistons to run normally 8.6:1 (standard car 9.6:1).

I would also aim for getting power elsewhere and getting the car healthy, like proper head work as a ported and polished head gives more results on a turbo car than it will on a N/A due to moving even more air/fuel through it, flowing the manifold better as the design is compromised.

didnt spot any cracks on the turbo when i had it all in bits, looked fine to me, but then im not used to looking for these kinda things so may have done a newbie silly mistake in missing it if it has got cracks my manifold was flowed by v/a (with the middle splitter bit removed) when i got it made up, chris the machinist guy did it for me iirc

my cinqs comp ratio is 8.5:1 iirc, but not checked this myself just thats what it was originally when converted, think im going to go with decat and oil cooler fittings then Setup/RR, may get a decat just welded in short term and in long term look at a drop in/out cat, but this doesnt need to be worried about for 12 months anyway

am i right in thinking thats how i should be planning my new oil feeds? excuse the bad paint annotation lol

thats it in a nut shell, but to be on safe side you should add a remote inline filter as I believe that the oil will not be 100% filtered this way, just leave the old filter in place if you follow.

If Emma reads this she may be persuaded to take some pics of her set up, or well what can be seen of it to give you an example.

Aaron.

There is a place at brize norton that used to do them, cant remember the name but its in the industrial estate at brize

on the rolling road subject, i know theres a place that speciailises in integrales and not sure if they do any other italian stuff, theyre just along the a4 outside of reading nr newbury do they have a rolling road? think you should know who im on about aaron?

Whiley said:

on the rolling road subject, i know theres a place that speciailises in integrales and not sure if they do any other italian stuff, theyre just along the a4 outside of reading nr newbury do they have a rolling road? think you should know who im on about aaron?

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I don't know if this is maybe who you are talking about as they service my 'grale http://www.auto-integrale.co.uk/contact_us.htm and are outside Reading.

they do not have a rolling road, but i know people have used these guys who are top notch http://www.owendevelopments.co.uk/contact.asp but Chris as TTS at Silverstone which TBH is not more than 45mins from Alex is good http://www.tts-performance.co.uk/tts.shtml

Aaron.

J333EVO said:

thats it in a nut shell, but to be on safe side you should add a remote inline filter as I believe that the oil will not be 100% filtered this way, just leave the old filter in place if you follow.

If Emma reads this she may be persuaded to take some pics of her set up, or well what can be seen of it to give you an example.

Aaron.

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further to this its probably just easier when thinking about it just to fit a remote filter take off then fit an inline filter saves you messing about with tapping bolts etc, may be a bit more expensive this way but far easier.