i have slow electric windows and want to give the motors a service.

i had a little look in the haynes manual and it mentions that if you remove the plastic bit behind the door card, you have to break the clips and replace them?

is this true and can you easily get new clips? i dont want to go in there and wreck something that is a nightmare to fix at this time of year.

any advise?

Have you tried spraying the runners with something that has silicone in found that does the trick 9/10 with slow windows stops the windows grabbing when going up

The clips on the door cards don't always break. You can buy spare ones to have in hand in case any do break.

I never had any luck solving my old Cinq electric Windows with cleaning and lubricating and just lived with them.

I think slow electric Windows could also be down to old dirty connections and switches. My x1/9 has comically show Windows to the extent that they sometimes need help going up.

I think it's because there are lots of connectors and the stitch which each reduce the power getting to the window. I think you can fit relays and direct power wires to solve the problem.

I may be wrong though...

Slow electric windows is down to the window rubbers becoming hard, You cannot service the window motors.

The 'felt' channels that the window slides in will eventually wear. They tend to be rubber or similar underneath, so then tend to grip the glass. Lubricating before they wear is a good idea, but hardly anyone remembers, lubricating afterwards is only temporary.

If the channels are worn, only real solution is replacement.

i have lubed them with silicone spray and it made a slight difference, but not really. it is worse down the bottom just before it stops. once it gets over the half way mark, it gets a move on and works as it should!

i didnt want to waste my time taking things all apart and finding i cant do anything with it.

can you not even lubricate the linkage or anything to improve matters?
with my toyotas you can dissasemble bits including the motors and lube them up to get them working better.

I will have to do a test with a direct feed from the battery next time i have a Cento with slow Windows and test my theory.

On the x1/9 loom all three connectors and fuse box reduce the current so much people even have to modify the windscreen wipers in this way. The dipped headlights are also often like driving by candle light because they dont originally have a relay!

has been a bit warmer the last few days and things have improved.

if it stays like it is now i will leave it and perhaps take a look next year when the weather is better.

when you get a chance .lower the windows down and take the rubber/window channels out of the car ,,into the house and clean them out with warm water and the likes of one of the plastic brushes

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-PC-SET-...351187?hash=item3f615be1d3:g:LogAAOSw3mpXFSOw

and scrub all the decades worth of gunk out of them which gets trapped and goes hard and tight inside them ...

once clean and dry get some silicone grease and run a thin bead all through the channels you can get the stuff on ebay or use dielectric grease

refit and enjoy fast windows

valeter said:

when you get a chance .lower the windows down and take the rubber/window channels out of the car ,,into the house and clean them out with warm water and the likes of one of the plastic brushes

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-PC-SET-...351187?hash=item3f615be1d3:g:LogAAOSw3mpXFSOw

and scrub all the decades worth of gunk out of them which gets trapped and goes hard and tight inside them ...

once clean and dry get some silicone grease and run a thin bead all through the channels you can get the stuff on ebay or use dielectric grease

refit and enjoy fast windows

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Can you remove and refit the window channel rubbers without removing the window? I have done what you suggested on my Toyota before, but that was a window out job, so one for the summer

From memory I think you can. It's been a while though

since found that WD40 now do there own SILICONE spray grease which has that handy flipeasy nozzle so ideal for getting into window runbbers without the bigg faff of rubbers out but if your gonna do a job do it rite .....wd40 silicone can is only a £5 at halfords