I have just acquired a 1999 1.1 Seicento Sporting SPi.
It has 22k genuine miles, but has sat for 3 years (elderly owner died) - not sure how much of that with a flat battery.
I was told that it was a non starter, they had tried to jump it, and that it had probably forgotten the key.
Put a new battery on it and put in a gallon of fuel.
Turned key - code light came on and went out as it should, the injector light came on for about 4 secs and went out as it should, cranked it and it Span, oil light went out - not even a cough.
Went under the lid and have given it a good going over, checked every connection I could see, all seemed good. Checked every fuse - including the ones behind the battery. Took a plug out and tried it on both coil packs - cranked - no spark. Looked down carb and had a sniff - no hint of fuel. Seems to hint at crank sensor, fuel cut off and/or suspect coil packs - all could add up to quite a bill if I replace them one by one then find the ECU up the swan.
I have ordered up the 3 pin adapted and the OBDII adapted from eBay and hope to get some kind of hint back on my laptop.
I checked the coil pack resistances both same (from memory either 3.5k or 7.5k didn't commit to memory, but both the same)
I put a 12v test lamp on the 12v to the coil packs to the -ve battery, lamp on for a few seconds when ignition turned on then goes off (a large relay pack next to the ECU clicks in then out at the same time - when it goes off the coil power goes off). Put test lamp to +ve battery to coil pack trigger - cranked engine - no light.
Disconnected crank sensor, helper cranked engine - dabbed end of test lamp lead rapidly to crank sensor input pin and occasionally seemed to inject fuel.
Can anyone confirm my initial guesses and/or come up with a way to reliably test ECU 0v triggers to coils. And tell me where the fuel cut off is an does it kill the spark?
(I am a sparky by trade, and am now a controls engineer - love classic cars and have had many projects - this is my 1st fly by wire! Give me a carb & dizzy and I am happy as a pig in muck! - try to earn Dad points with my 17yr old daughters 1st car project!)
It has 22k genuine miles, but has sat for 3 years (elderly owner died) - not sure how much of that with a flat battery.
I was told that it was a non starter, they had tried to jump it, and that it had probably forgotten the key.
Put a new battery on it and put in a gallon of fuel.
Turned key - code light came on and went out as it should, the injector light came on for about 4 secs and went out as it should, cranked it and it Span, oil light went out - not even a cough.
Went under the lid and have given it a good going over, checked every connection I could see, all seemed good. Checked every fuse - including the ones behind the battery. Took a plug out and tried it on both coil packs - cranked - no spark. Looked down carb and had a sniff - no hint of fuel. Seems to hint at crank sensor, fuel cut off and/or suspect coil packs - all could add up to quite a bill if I replace them one by one then find the ECU up the swan.
I have ordered up the 3 pin adapted and the OBDII adapted from eBay and hope to get some kind of hint back on my laptop.
I checked the coil pack resistances both same (from memory either 3.5k or 7.5k didn't commit to memory, but both the same)
I put a 12v test lamp on the 12v to the coil packs to the -ve battery, lamp on for a few seconds when ignition turned on then goes off (a large relay pack next to the ECU clicks in then out at the same time - when it goes off the coil power goes off). Put test lamp to +ve battery to coil pack trigger - cranked engine - no light.
Disconnected crank sensor, helper cranked engine - dabbed end of test lamp lead rapidly to crank sensor input pin and occasionally seemed to inject fuel.
Can anyone confirm my initial guesses and/or come up with a way to reliably test ECU 0v triggers to coils. And tell me where the fuel cut off is an does it kill the spark?
(I am a sparky by trade, and am now a controls engineer - love classic cars and have had many projects - this is my 1st fly by wire! Give me a carb & dizzy and I am happy as a pig in muck! - try to earn Dad points with my 17yr old daughters 1st car project!)