This may have been discussed before but does anyone think this is worth the bother?

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It sits behind the normal OMP lower brace, bolting onto the rear of the wishbones rather than the front. Would it offer any benefit though?? I see a lot of chassis bracing that appears to be for the sake of selling tuning parts to people.

Impossible to quantify without a chassis dynomometer (and, even then, one capable of imposing lateral loads). Or we could put slicks on and run it round 3 Sisters for an afternoon.........

I guess the good thing about that one is that it doesn't seem to reduce ground clearance and should make the ARB more effective by stiffening up the chassis a little (if you really want a more effective front ARB on a car that understeers!).

I think these things sell because people like an easy solution (bolt on some stiff bits that some geezer says will work, rather than pull the car to bits and weld in some some stiffeners).

I guess it all started with Abarth and the stiffening kit for the Integrale. But that, 'tis said, really worked.

Duncan said:

This may have been discussed before but does anyone think this is worth the bother?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_8ukSdy86WJs/SwmvRUmRzEI/AAAAAAAAJtk/ibvUPOjh24k/s1600/DSC00014.JPG

It sits behind the normal OMP lower brace, bolting onto the rear of the wishbones rather than the front. Would it offer any benefit though?? I see a lot of chassis bracing that appears to be for the sake of selling tuning parts to people.

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It won't let me see that in work. But i know the one you are talking about, is someone selling it ?

You could make it for a tenner!

fingers99 said:

You could make it for a tenner!

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I give you £30?

Ming

No problem. But keep it on the to do list for the moment -- I need to buy in some CDS tube for the MR2 (needs a stiffy!) so will do it from the excess.

fingers99 said:

No problem. But keep it on the to do list for the moment -- I need to buy in some CDS tube for the MR2 (needs a stiffy!) so will do it from the excess.

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Am sure if you make a batch, £30 a pop loads of people would take them

ycming said:

Am sure if you make a batch, £30 a pop loads of people would take them

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Here's hoping!

DAM!!! ive been looking in to making a better brace , and it was simlilar , to this , Is that in a cinq ? looks like a punto?

but when my car is in the air this weekend , it will be getting one on

i can't see that picture, but i guess it be similar to these:

https://www.fiatforum.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=30896&cat=20

Ming

yeah its verry similar to that mate

I would be interested in one if you fancy it, as long as funds allow. I've been looking at lower strut braces but a standard OMP one wouldn't last 5 minutes on my car!

If i had a Omp one on it would just sit on the floor #strutbarscuffer

here you go ycming
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i would love one of those, i had them on my cappo!!

Someone please make and sell

im on it

Just wait.

In passing (cynical old head on) these will rely on crappy little captive nut inside relatively thin box sections to hold it all together. To make it work effectively, you need to drill right through the nut and box section, tube the box section, and put a sheet stiffener (2mm should be adequate) with a lip on it welded to another panel. Secure it all with a high tensile nut and bolt.

No-one wants to do the work, put in the effort (etc.). Kids today, huh?.....................

fingers99 said:

You could make it for a tenner!

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That's what I was thinking. I'm going to attempt a lower brace for the front of the wishbones that should provide better ground clearance than the OMP etc... so might try and knock one of these up. Could cross brace the two bars in an X shape but I suspect the exhaust would get in the way.

Hard to quantify -- we just don't know how stiff the chassis is there. The one in the first pic looks like it's made from ERW tube that someone has ovalised by squashing it: you can see the weld running along the length!

To be effective, the lower brace needs to be straight or of heavy gauge material with an offset to stop flexing.