Hi guys, a few people have asked for a video so here it is.

Sadly this isnt running full boost and the methonal injection is turned off (roughly 140bhp/140lb/sf), this way i could maintain traction rather than watching clocks dancing about etc.

the run is a 30-90 test run which actualy starts half way though due to traffic
running high boost knocks a second off this time with 165bhp/157lb/sf @15psi.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTVbWGiMXKw"]YouTube- turbo cinq in low boost 10psi (140bhp) methonal injection turned off[/nomedia]

A beast.

Ming

thats nuts by the way how did you get the speedo to work with a completely different engine. im interested to know

its not a completely different engine, it's just modified (a lot)

the speedo drive comes from the gearbox, via a mechanical cable on the cinq.. so it's easy

i hope that temp gauge is wired up or thrashing a cold engine :S

but non the less a beast

Ash

my bad i thought this was his rear engined cosworth haha. well in that case even more impressed

the cosworth powered one is someone else's, you are just getting confused
love how these things accelerate, mine isn't no where near that fast though.. never will be either with spi me thinks :idea: lol

fordcosworth said:

YouTube- turbo cinq in low boost 10psi (140bhp) methonal injection turned off

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Isn't 10psi like 0.7bar? You call it low boost?

10psi is what my sei turbo runs atm. I ran my old cinq at 20psi without any bother though. he has a completely different setup to most people though.

want!

whitz said:

i hope that temp gauge is wired up or thrashing a cold engine :S

but non the less a beast

Ash

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hi, i run no thermostat to keep the engine cool as possible (70degrees usually) safer for the head running this power level, the engine had been running for 45mins before the vid to get me to where i videod it.

thanks

woj said:

Isn't 10psi like 0.7bar? You call it low boost?

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hello, 10psi is my low boost setting mate, it runs 15psi high boost and upto 20psi for as much as 190bhp plus if the engine was built to take it. Ive always ran a bar plus so 0.7 bar is what is i class as low boost for me and the turbo,and the turbo is a large one that ran 10psi from the factory with scope for alot more boost.

thanks.

thanks for all the comments, the car is coming along now days as i have bought a large front mount intercooler to replace the GT one and there will be some more work soon on the bottom end for reliability such as rods and pistons, here is a little refresher on the basic engine spec for people who are curious -

1242cc punto 75 engine

8.5:1 C/R

Garrett GT1752 Hybrid turbo 0.47 a/r turbine and 0.53 a/r compressor

Punto GT intercooler

Water Methonal injection

MPI on boost spi off boost fueling setup on mpi manifold

Aquamist MF2 injector driver

Volvo 850 on boost injectors

custom 2 " decat exhaust

Ported 75 head/ 75 cam

Adjustable cam pulley

tricker 40mm throttle body

mandral bend boost pipes

Electronic boost controller 10psi low boost/15psi high boost

turbo smart fuel cut deffender

intercooler water spray kit

RS2000 fuel pump

adjustable FPR

Copper 1.5mm decomp plate and payen head gasket

Airfilter mounted on front bumper

dump valve....................etc

jason

My standard 98 S can do that......mind you, I have to have one front wheel up on an axle stand.
That's scaringly impressive.

i hope that once i have my P75 mpi in and i decide to go nuts it comes somewhere close to this but we shall see lol

big respect on the results mate, i just love the way you put your foot down and the fuel gauge goes to red lol, let off and half a tank again lol

fordcosworth said:

hello, 10psi is my low boost setting mate, it runs 15psi high boost and upto 20psi for as much as 190bhp plus if the engine was built to take it. Ive always ran a bar plus so 0.7 bar is what is i class as low boost for me and the turbo,and the turbo is a large one that ran 10psi from the factory with scope for alot more boost.

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Well, mine I hope will stay below or at 0.7 (still running the engine in, wasn't brave enough to see how high it goes on turbo's factory setting) and I am going to call it high-boost.

Copper 1.5mm decomp plate and payen head gasket

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Enlighten me please. I was looking into different ways of decompressing my engine. Putting aside safety margins and such, the best idea I thought I had was to have one single accordingly thick copper head gasket. I was told this is going to end up real bad very quickly, allegedly because of quick rusting (what's the proper word here?) in presence of water and heat (would be a different story for an air cooled engine). In the end I have a stainless-steel plate plus two metal head gaskets doing the job just fine. But any thoughts on copper are very welcome...

mariocinq said:

i hope that once i have my P75 mpi in and i decide to go nuts it comes somewhere close to this but we shall see lol

big respect on the results mate, i just love the way you put your foot down and the fuel gauge goes to red lol, let off and half a tank again lol

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thankyou mate, i no what you mean,,,,,bad design in the first place these tanks lol but dial in the G from acceleration and its loads worse haha.

jason

woj said:

Well, mine I hope will stay below or at 0.7 (still running the engine in, wasn't brave enough to see how high it goes on turbo's factory setting) and I am going to call it high-boost.



Enlighten me please. I was looking into different ways of decompressing my engine. Putting aside safety margins and such, the best idea I thought I had was to have one single accordingly thick copper head gasket. I was told this is going to end up real bad very quickly, allegedly because of quick rusting (what's the proper word here?) in presence of water and heat (would be a different story for an air cooled engine). In the end I have a stainless-steel plate plus two metal head gaskets doing the job just fine. But any thoughts on copper are very welcome...

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hello mate

I have spoken to a few people who mentioned having the block decked and using a copper HG (as you say thick enough to lower the c/r accordingly) but none ever mentioned any rust issues??
Im happy enough for now with the Current set-up, the copper decomp can take alot off heat better than my last aluminium and the payen gaskets have never let me down one the turbo engines.
Ideally id like to think im eventually going to get some forged pistons and get a steel head gasket etc.
be interesting to see if there is any truth behind the copper theory you mentioned.....best person to speak to hear is mike a ferriday seen as he advised me on my current decompression setup.

thanks

jason

fordcosworth said:

I have spoken to a few people who mentioned having the block decked and using a copper HG (as you say thick enough to lower the c/r accordingly) but none ever mentioned any rust issues??
Im happy enough for now with the Current set-up, the copper decomp can take alot off heat better than my last aluminium and the payen gaskets have never let me down one the turbo engines.
Ideally id like to think im eventually going to get some forged pistons and get a steel head gasket etc.
be interesting to see if there is any truth behind the copper theory you mentioned.....best person to speak to hear is mike a ferriday seen as he advised me on my current decompression setup.

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The problem is that this information I have is very unrealiable. I was told by one person that somebody somewhere once tried it and had to dump the idea very quickly, no clear reason given. The other person said it would "probably" oxidise very quickly, also with little justification. But in principle this idea was dumped as a whole by the Polish Fiat turbo crowd, and usually they have good reasons for such decisions. Maybe we are talking about two different copper compounds - I would stupidly guess the one for HG would be softer than one for a decomp plate. In any case there are a few practical issues with copper HG: (a) safety margin, (b) having a replacement one handy and they are pricey. So I am actually very happy with my plate + 2 metal HGs setup: easily acquireable parts and certain safety.

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i just love the way you put your foot down and the fuel gauge goes to red lol, let off and half a tank again lol

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On one days hard playing in my old turbo I went from a brim full full tank of V power to fuel light permanently on in just over 90 miles, also pretty much finished off the front tyres the same day

The video just doesn't do it justice as you can't see Jason fighting to keep it in a straight line [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukr-LvTqoqw"]YouTube- Hi Boost Turbo Cinquecento[/nomedia] this was 0-60ish in my old one running similar power to Jason's in his vid. You just don't realise just how bloody quick these things can be!

still got a spare diff if you want jason

nice. Ill have to do a incar video in mine

copper rusting

hi,

euhm, copper rusting because of water and heat?

no way!!!!!!!!!!!

why do you think they use copper lines for heating systems?


At work (mechanician at belgian public transportation(bussses ) they use alot of aluminium gaskets at pneumatic valves.

these things wear super fast because of water, heat, salt.
I always replace them by copper ones, and they dont wear at all , they don't rust ....

if yoy use alu at one side and for example iron at the other side to connect things, there can be some chemical reaction ("rusting)
if you use copper between them, no probs!



But I think one thick copper one just aint that strong as a steel one.
by the way copper cant stand heat better than steel.
It melts way faster