Technical Cinq T-Jet Build

[whitz]

well my college is scrapping a 1.2 brava very soon and it did have a good engine when it came in but the cam belt has been on and off a few times without the locking tool used

im guessing there could be a possible be a bent valve at worst case as the engine hasnt been ran

would be be best to take the spark plugs out and turn it over by hand to check if it hits anything, if thats ok do a compression test to see if timing is out massively?

any help would be appreciated on how to check this, quicker the better as were doing a complete strip down and cataloguing a punto :yum:

Ash

EDIT its the 1.2 16v super-fire engine

 

[richydraper]

re: slow build 16v cinq

99% not damaged! FIRE are NON-interferance engines... UNLESS its been skimmed past the max mark on the head

 

[whitz]

re: slow build 16v cinq

ahh my mistake forgot to mension its the 1.2 16V super-fire

 

[ycming]

re: slow build 16v cinq

If the engine, not been running i'd say it be fine! Unless someone tries to turn the pully with a breaker bar

Ming

 

[ilsonemo]

re: slow build 16v cinq

only way to tell is to take the head off and take a look inside

 

[rallycinq]

re: slow build 16v cinq

Turn over gently by hand is a good idea, endoscope is an other.

Cheers

SPD

 

[whitz]

re: slow build 16v cinq

didn't get a good look at it today as i was busy but timing marks are all lined up

asked how much they wanted it for and they said free as long as i pull it out:slayer:

 

[whitz]

re: slow build 16v cinq

well pulling the engine out tomorrow, anything else worth getting of the bravo before it gets scrapped?

taking engine and anything bolted to it (bar gearbox which has had it)
loom
could get ecu, codebox and ignition barrlel but useless as no key

Ash

 

[arc]

re: slow build 16v cinq

fuel pump, all the bulbs, fuses, relays, speed cluster (ebay), bits of trim, window motors etc etc

 

[whitz]

re: slow build 16v cinq

fuel pump, all the bulbs, fuses, relays, speed cluster (ebay), bits of trim, window motors etc etc

i take them aswell except the trim and motors, id have the whole car but i haven't got room :bang:

 

[whitz]

re: slow build 16v cinq

ok got soem stuff off it today

such as
engine
gearbox (not knackered)
alternator
inlet/exhaust manifolds
engine loom but i belive this is useless to be as its not the same type of ecu or connectors :bang:

needs a load of odd nuts and bolts as some are missing but im not complaining as it was free

cinq was taken the the **** out of today when it picked up the engine it stopped after i said it beats walking

will get some pictures up soon

Ash

 

[whitz]

re: slow build 16v cinq

here are the gearbox and alternator bit grubby but non the less ok

the engine seems alot smaller when its out of the car

some of the damage the one on the is rounded completely so il have to use a star drive to get em out

ECU which is no dowt useless... along with loom

please excuse the crappy camera phone

Ash

 

[whitz]

re: slow build 16v cinq

been going along slowly with this engine, managed to break two star drive's getting the cam assembly off :bang:

could anyone recommend a good long reach 1/2" star drive set?

Ash

 

[arc]

re: slow build 16v cinq

star drive.. ie torx?

use the correct tools, ie Draper Expert 67065 7 piece set of ribe socket bits on socket rail: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

 

[whitz]

re: slow build 16v cinq

star drive.. ie torx?

use the correct tools, ie Draper Expert 67065 7 piece set of ribe socket bits on socket rail: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

Ahh thank you
seems i didnt look close enough at the bolts

i feel somewhat like an idiot now lol

Ash

 

[arc]

re: slow build 16v cinq

easy to do, especially when your first view of a ribe is buried in the oily bits of the cam carriers!

 

[cc1]

re: slow build 16v cinq

If you get the code reader, pickup ring and a key then you can use the ecu for the engine. Also cut off the ecu connector from the other part of the harness.

 

[whitz]

re: slow build 16v cinq

If you get the code reader, pickup ring and a key then you can use the ecu for the engine. Also cut off the ecu connector from the other part of the harness.

more wiring yayyyy

not the most keen on wiring but im guessing it would be easier to use the punto loom and ecu and make up a connector (like gergor) to connect the two together, as i wouldnt want to mess up the car loom

Ash

 

[whitz]

re: slow build 16v cinq

got a set of ribe from my local dagar tools for dead on £20 so nice


got the head off today, gasket ended up stuck to both sides but bores
were spot on all i need to do now is de-coke (carb cleaner?) the head mild port n polish and skim

im unsure on the flywheels here, as far as i know the 1.2 has a 190mm clutch, is this measured by the overall circumference of where the fiction plate touches the flywheel ?

Ash

 

[Todger182]

re: slow build 16v cinq

Friction plate.

Port and polish is recomended by me .

Fiat heads I wouldn't say are badly casted but are very restricted in my opinion. Removal of the cast marks and opening the chambers up a little will improve flow nicely.

Also Do a port match exhaust side using a genuine fiat gasket .

Thanks