Hi all, the time has come for me to begin a project:slayer:. Have been recently ploughing through owners clubs forums to get an idea of whats out there, and come across the cinquecento, im after a cheapish one and has to be sporting as im going to put the 1.2 spi engine in there:devil::devil:. was also wondering how much i am looking at spending on one of these engines. plus is there parts available for this engine such as cams filters and other various runing parts. for the conversion will i need to adapt the ECU in any way?:bang:

Thanks Charlie

Hi mate, welcome to FF. This is a question that the forum gets all the time; if you have a search and look through the Guides section, you should find the answers pretty easily

ok thanks mate, will have another dig around the forum.

You can run a 1242 spi off a 1108 spi ecu. Ebays a good place to look for mk1 engines (has to be punto MK1 - MK2s are MPI and have different mounting points.) They often go for around £100 if your patient.

In terms of tuning it, manifolds are available, plenty of different induction kits, the camshaft from a punto 75 engine will give you a small gain, tricker throttle bodies open the inlet from 32mm to 40mm, and the mckritch chip for the 1108 engines will run the 1242 with a little extra gain aswell.

very helpful! so only a mk1 punto engine. whats this im reading about spacers for the inlet? does anyone have any pics im confused!

If you talking about what i think your talking about, these spacers are only there for mounting non-standard throttle bodies where the mounts dont line up. I.E you mount the plate to the inlet manifold and then the TB to the plate.

charlie_chinq said:

very helpful! so only a mk1 punto engine. whats this im reading about spacers for the inlet? does anyone have any pics im confused!

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You need a spacer for the exhaust downpipe, which you'll need to account for the 1242's extra stroke (about half an inch).

There are umpteen threads on this and a pretty good step by step explanation in the Guides/FAQs - https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecento-seicento-faqs/93884-engine-swaps.html

your too fast i was just getting a quote, ill post it anywho:

"The exhaust won't fit. You need to either have the front pipe cut and extended by 15mm to get it on, or make a spacer to go between the front pipe and manifold. If you do this, you will also need longer bolts or studs fitting to the manifold to connect it all up.
You can either use the flange cut from an old front pipe, or have one made up. If you have access to facilities, it's not difficult to do - use a gasket as a template. Alternatively, an engineering shop may make you one up."

thats what im on about.
charlie

Hmm .... not all Mk2 punto is MPI, you can still get SPI one.

But i think i havr read that you will need the pulley from your cinq sporting engine.

Ming

are you sure? i've only ever seen MPI 1.2 8vs in MK2s

Anywho the mounts are still different (mounted to head rather than block on mk2) so it needs to be MK1 anyways.

Xen said:

are you sure? i've only ever seen MPI 1.2 8vs in MK2s

Anywho the mounts are still different (mounted to head rather than block on mk2) so it needs to be MK1 anyways.

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All Mk2s are MPI.

The Mk2 engines can be fitted to the Mk1s and the Centos without modification.

hmm . my mistake

So mk2 bottom and mk1 punto head? would fit fine to the cinq ?

Changing the bottom pulley too ?

Ming

would it not be easyer to just use a mk1 engine, or does the hybrid engine give more power? but then you have to buy two engine and mess about! :bang:

easiest swap is complete punto 60 engine (MK1 1.2 8v)

mainly , because mk2 will be newer.

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who's selling stuff here??

Charlie_cinq if you need a block I have one although it is the Punto 75 one (it is a better block than the 60).

If you are interested PM me.

Best of luck with the project when it goes ahead.

with that would i just need to use the 60 head? and will it fit?
cheers

Yes all 8v fire heads and compatible with 8v fire blocks. You can fit a 55/60 or 75 head to that block.

If its a cinq, you could use your existing sporting head on the block and then retain the cinq inlet manifold/throttle body etc.

The conversion is there on the same process as the 60 engine.