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Strip, Clean, repair your seats!
(and hopefully put them back together)
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In order to remove the seat back, you first need to relase this part at the bottom of the backrest, it's actually curled over itself and then tucked in.

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With pressure applied in the right direction it can be released WITHOUT significantly bending the metal out of the way.

REMEMBER! how it was held in place, as you will be putting it back!

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Then with that done you can release the cords that go through the seat back and provide tension to the front of the seat cover

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With these released on both sides, it's a good idea to familiarise yourself with where they go.

These Sei sporting seats are the simplest I've done, on a Sei SX and I presume later model Cinq the cords are threaded through a seam on the front of the seat before returning to the back.

On the Older Cinq's (standard seats at least) there are all kinds of cords clipped everywhere, you need to take your time and make sure you know where they come from otherwise you will ruin your seats!!

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Before we can slide the seat material off, you need to tease it from around the handle surround we loosened earlier

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Don't go mad, gently pull the cover upwards about so far.

On Sei's and I presume later Cinq's you will see this elastic band stretched across the rear springs, remove it.

On older Cinq's the tension here was maintained via a cord with a plastic clip, which then inevitably made a small hole in the front of the seat where it rubbed over time.

Fiat clearly realised this and improved the design!

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Towards the top of the rear of the seat there is a metal bar with nylon ends that needs to be removed.

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And then there are clips that hold the headrest in place, undo them and draw the headrest away.

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Now turning our attention back to the seat base we want to remove the material from the foam.

Now you will see your first 'HOG RING'

These are used by upholsterers to join the material to the foam.
You will need to snip. pry or twist the hog rings apart to release them. This is awkward, but great care MUST be taken not to rip the edges of the foam, as this will release the bars inside and your seat cover won't have any tension left in it when you re'assemble.

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Here's a close up of a Hog Ring.

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It holds a bar running through a sleeve in the cover to a bar running through the foam itself.

Fiat made them stronger in later cars too! I used to be able to clip them off with sharp plyers, but had to use a bit of prying on this seat.

Don't worry about keeping them intact, we will replace with cable-ties!

Here's the seat base cover removed.

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Next we need to release the ends of the bars to remove from the cover

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Pry apart and keep a note on which bars go where and which way up, it can make a difference to how well your seat fits back together!

Now once the bars are removed from their sleeve go and throw in the bath with some washing powder, whilst you remove the bars from the seat back cover.

You'll note that this seat wasn't that dirty but look at the colour of the water!

I have had it go really poo brown before with a particularly dirty set of seats that came up like new!


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I have heard of people machine washing them, but I thought the potential for the plastic clips to snag the seat material was too great.

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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

Fantastic guide that!! bit of a specialist subject isnt it, upholstery. I bet it would be good to have a go using a scrap seat if somebody had access to one before committing themselves to their own seat.

The seat covers, could they be used to make a pattern for new covers?


The seat base foam, imagine how many farts have gone into that!!
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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

Hi Levmir,

Thanks, I looked at your page before I ever bought a Cinq, thanks for your guides too!

The first set I did was actually on my current car, a standard Cinq 's' the seats were minging and I just thought 'what the hell' they were ruined already!

I was really surprised that they came up so good and there was worse than 'farts' that had gone into the foam on the back where the previous owner had a dog i can tell you!

I did panic half way through and think 'am I ever going to get this back together again' but it really isn't too difficult, just time consuming.

Plus it's not like you can strip a plug thread or drop a washer into a combustion chamber and ruin the engine!

So now this set of seats is going in my wee Cinq' but I'm keeping the standard ones in the loft for resale.

I'd encourage anyone who's seats are beyond a reasonable level of cleaning to have a try, but you're right it's not for everyone.

It is however one of the cheapest jobs you can do that you will notice every time you drive your car!

Oh, and on the subject of re-trimming. - As my mother is an ex seamstress, it did occur to me that I was part way to retrimming the seats.

However, this would require someone with an industrial machine (I beleive with "walking feet") that would have to go through thick material and plastic, AND you'd have to source plastic tabs and trims (particularly for the rears) or commit to cutting them out of the old covers.

Basically I think you'd need the services of a coach-trimmer, and guess what they are probably going to want to charge you pretty much the same cost as if they did it all themselves?
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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

would you know if the driver and passenger seat are the same? could be usefull for people to buy the passenger seats from scraped centos to replace the cover on the driver seat (which wears out)
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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

Wouldn't the hole for the lever be on the wrong side?

Wonder If you can help me PhilWeaver as you've seen the inner workings of the seat. The back rest part of my passenger seat seems to be slightly loose. i.e. it can be moved back and forth about 1-2 cm. The base of the seats remains still just the back part moves. Not a major problem as I'm never in the passenger seat so it doesn't affect me but if it is possible to fix then I may give it a go.

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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

very true! but i would rather have a small patch there then a gaping hole in the bolsta
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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

Don't know about the movement in the seat unless the frame is snapped (which can happen especially on Cinq's as the frame was not as strong.

I didn't pay too much attention to where the base and back meet; I have got the driver's side to do any day soon, so I'll have a look and report back, might be difficult to say without actually seeing what's wrong with yours- I would have a look if I were you I made the guide more comprehensive than it needs to be because i know people don't like the thought of tackling upholstery.

If you only want to remove the covers and check the integrity of the frame it's a lot less of a job, the most time conusming part is removing the base material from the foam.

Yes, It's perfectly feasable to swap a passenger backrest cover to a driver's chair, but you would have the hole for the handle.

It's a pity no-one makes aftermarket drivers side seat covers, there was one for a sei sporting on ebay a while back, and at one time Fiat would order them for you as a part. (think they will all be out of stock by now though)
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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

Incidentally I was looking for a seat from a scrapped Sei recently before I found the foam glue. Scrappies were charging 30 - 35 for one seat.

With a bit of patience and regular scanning of ebay I turned up a full set of Sei abarth seats locally for 40, the passenger seat of which is featured in the guide (although I still need to aquire the catches for the rear).

Just thought I'd mention as it could be a better bet than paying for one passenger seat and swapping over, although you also need to consider waht colour your door cards are.
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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

firstly what a great guide,i used this guide for my punto seats theyre the same i think.and i machine washed mine with vanish oxyaction.
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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

I may have to take that route someday but I must confess the seats in the Sie I just got where disgusting and I used a product from Lidl for upholstery (I don't work for them) and I got an amazing result. Took a half hour so it might be worth a try before going whole hog (I'm a Yank, might be evident by my choice of expressions).
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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

Hi 007fiat,

What was the Lidl product, can you PM me please, my seats are horrible and I need to clean them badle!

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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

Possibility to add a heat pad in on refitting ????

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Re: Strip, Clean, repair your seats!

Thanks for this helpful guide, it gave me some confidence to repair my driver's seat rather than replace it.

I had the snapped seat top syndrome, quickly repaired by welding. if you can move the headrest back and forth without the lower part of the seat moving, then there is already some damage to the welds, and now would be a good time to repair it before it snaps completely!

Strangely, another part was broken: the strip across the bottom rear of the backrest, onto which the foam tensioner strings clip. I had that welded too.

Neoprene glue works for splits in the foam cushions.

My late Cinq has only 2 tensioning strings on each side of the backrest, so it's easy to dismantle and replace.

Releasing the rubber band clip near the top of the backrest, as soon as you can reach it, is important for allowing the material to be pulled off without damaging the foam in frustration!

A bonus of taking the seat out (only 4 Allen screws) is the ability to give the rarely-accessible parts of the carpet and the seat runners a really good clean...

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great guide! heh when cleaning my seats i used a Vax worked well!
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hello, can a drivers and passenger side seat base be swapped from side to side?
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