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| | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit Head Bolts New ones are recommended, but I reused the old ones but made sure the threads were fully clean, I dipped them in diesel to lubricate them slightly and left them to drain overnight, then a quick wipe over to get rid of any excess. This stops them from hydraulicing and allows them to be torqued down evenly.
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| | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit I have just had a look at the guide I posted, a few days later I had my original cylinder head repaired by a specialist, the edges of the correoded water jackets were ground back, then welded up to reform them, then the head was skimmed. I didnt even have to remove my valves which made the job for me, much easier. Another heat gasket set was bought, complete with new bolts this time, the heads were then swapped over. The car has run amazingly since and am now about 1000 or so miles on, never uses a drop of water or oil, looking back I should have just got in touch with head specialists to have my original head fixed up. If anyone in the northwest needs help doing a head gasket, get in touch I am willing to help.
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| | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit is this same/similar to the 1108cc seicento? i think its the mpi one though.
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yes, if its MPI then the inlet manifold will be different/have different components on. The procedure of head gasket change is exactly the same.
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Posts: 563 Thanks: 2 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit only 30nm torgue for head bolts??? I thought it will be more
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| | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit Thats the stage 1 of torqueing, stage 2 and 3 means taking the bolts through two quarter turns, this doesnt require a torque wrench - although you can still use it for the leverage as the force required for the last two stages is a hell of a lot.
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Posts: 563 Thanks: 2 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit how will I find I need to skim head????? what are sideffects of defformated engine head?? what does it mean overheated head??
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People have, and will continue to, just replace the gasket and not done a skim, possibly a few pounds saved if you are getting rid of the car, but in the long term it MIGHT NOT last, meaning the same job will have to be carried out again, by that time the head could well be past the stage of it being possible to skim it - unlikely maybe, but still a possibility, imo I had some corrosion on my head where the gasket had failed, I initially thought it not worth having the work done [or even of it was possible], but in the end thats what I resorted to doing - having it repaired then skimmed off nice and flat, and doing the job all over again [cos first time round, I got a replacement head off ebay, and it ran like poo], I can happily report that I have done in the region of 8000 miles on it since, possibly more, with no issues whatsoever. Happy days
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Posts: 563 Thanks: 2 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit Iam solving this in one topic, its not serious hg gone (no mayo, no oil level rising, only sometimes white smoke) so I want to put head down and see whats going on there because iam pretty sick of whats wrong with it
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Posts: 563 Thanks: 2 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit so whats the right tightning sequence?? i have haynes databook, and there are probably swapped cylinder numbers-last bolts 10and9 are drawed at timing belt side, and there is also drawn cylinder no. 4 - but it should be no.1??? its also imprinted on head as number 1. So first bolt to tight is in the middle to back of car, and last one is last bolt at timing belt side and facing front side of car????? am i right??
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| | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit Number 1 cylinder is timing belt end, as for sequence.. I cant remember!! a quick look through the cinq section FAQ or a search should find it, thats where I got it from all that time ago.
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Posts: 563 Thanks: 2 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit i think is doesnt matter if the first is in front or back-ju just have to keep that sequence. usually any side related instructions are always meant from drivers position btw. any re-tighting after time recommended???? but dont know torgue so probably u cant tight them again...
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| | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit no, just tightened to the specified torque, which when you are doing it seems really slack, but then when you turn each bolt through the final two 90deg turns, it is f'in tight!! my right elbow hasnt been the same since!! I think if you tried at a later date to turn them again, they would probably snap, the final turn makes you think that a bolt is going to snap, its amazing they dont.
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Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Trader Rating: 0 | Re: Cylinder Head Gasket remove and refit Hiya sorry to sound daft but mine is the 1108cc Seicento MPI so would the torque and order etc be the same, I know you said"yes, if its MPI then the inlet manifold will be different/have different components on. The procedure of head gasket change is exactly the same." Also you said "The head bolts need to be tightened in 3 stages, using your torque wrench set it to 30Nm, and tighten the bolts as specified in your manual" I dont have a manual and Haynes dont do one for a Seicento (to the best of my knowledge) Do you know which order and tightness? One last thing, I have details for a SMI but where mine is a MPI just not sure if it will be the same? Sorry just found my CD manual and that is for a SMI. Thanks in advance, Vicky
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