The FIAT Forum
iNETFX Domain Registration - COM/NET/ORG £6.50 a year!

Go Back   The FIAT Forum > FIAT Cars > Cinquecento / Seicento


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 24-05-2007   #1
 
K4RL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: mansfield, United Kingdom
Posts: 797
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: (0)
Guide: Arch Rolling/Extending

right, i'll try my best. if you still have any questions. ask away and i'll answer best i can.

what you need;

car jack
wheel brace
normal claw hammer and a nice big lump hammer.
hand grinder
philips screw driver
hand drill with a 3.2 drill bit or likewise size.
rivet gun and a couple of rivets same size as the drill bit with a 5mm shank.
80 grit paper, 240 grit paper, 1200 grit paper (wet and dry stuff)
about a litre of body filler
and a can or 2 of high build primer


1;

really think about what your about to commit yourself too. once you start, there isn't much chance of going back. not without it looking dodgy anyway.

2;

firstly, jack your car up and remove the wheels.

3;

if you have a cinq, using your screwdriver, remove the plastic arch trims. and any inner arch linings.

4;

now the fun starts, using the normal hammer, hit back the inner lip of the arch, see pics..




5;

once you have the inner lip smashed up against the inside of the arch, you then need to hit the inner and the outter part of your arch outward together. this is where you use the lump hammer.
holding the lump hammer on the out side. best using the top part which is the flatest and has the biggest surface. hold that to the outside of the arch and using the normal hammer in your other hand, hit the inner arch, against the lump hamper, effectively knocking the arch outwards.

to give this kind of result




6;

once you have your arches to this stage, its time for the grinder to come out.

grind back all the paint on your nicely bashed arch to remove any lose paint and get it back to bare metal, for a better bond with the bodyfiller.

7;

time to start layering on the filler, keeping the layers as smooth and as level as possible for an easier and better finish. using the 80grit paper in between layers.

8;

once you achive the required skin of filler. use the 240grit paper to get it nice and smooth, getting it ready for primer.

9;

once the primer is dry, use the 1200grit paper to flat it back, layering the primer, like you did with filler till you get it as perfect as you can. then your ready for painting.

10;

now to deal with the underside of the arches. becuase of what you've done so far. you will not be able to reuse the front inner arch liners. as originally, these use the inner lip to fasten too.

where the inner lip has been beaten against the rest of the inner arch, its best to use some kind of silicone to seal it all up, to prevent water and other crap getting between and running the risk of getting rust. once the silicone is applied and dried, use some under body sealent paint, to finish it off.


for the rear arches again do the same as the front. however, when it come to the rear offside (drivers side) the fuel tank filler pipe is exsposed, and this will need covering back up for safety reasons. so reattach that arch lining. but you'll see that because the arches have changed, it wont fit back together properly, so you'll need to trim it back so it dosent stick out. at the top across from the top fixing screw, you'll need to push it back as far as you can, then using the drill, drill through the liner and the inner skin of the arch and put a rivet in there, or a self tapper, for future removal.

in the pic, you can see where i've trimmed it back, but as yet, i've not had the chance to secure it with either the rivet or self tapper. luckily, i've got some excess filler holding it in place.

.


11;

once all this is done, replace your wheels and give yourself a pat on the back!!


well done!










hope this help you all. i'll get some more pics on friday when i continue my car, explaining the hammer and hammer part. so i'll edit this thread accordingly!
__________________
Karl



CINQ SOLD! now the owner of a escy GTi.... slightly faster

Last edited by K4RL; 24-05-2007 at 01:10.
K4RL is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2007   #2
__________
 
dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,096
Thanks: 326
Trader Rating: (10)
dave has donated! Saint Kitts and Nevis 
Re: Guide: Arch Rolling/Extending

http://www.fiatforum.com/guides can win stuff if you put it in there with images attached
__________________
Binki
dave is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2007   #3
 
K4RL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: mansfield, United Kingdom
Posts: 797
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: (0)
Re: Guide: Arch Rolling/Extending

Originally Posted by dave View Post
http://www.fiatforum.com/guides can win stuff if you put it in there with images attached
dads on it lol
__________________
Karl



CINQ SOLD! now the owner of a escy GTi.... slightly faster
K4RL is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 30-05-2007   #4
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: West Brom, West Mids
Posts: 219
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: (1)
United Kingdom 
Re: Guide: Arch Rolling/Extending

but no offence you could just go down the road to wheel man and get them rolled properly with the proper machine for 25quid a side and then you want have to paint your arch again
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides | FAQs

warrior is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 30-05-2007   #5
 
K4RL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: mansfield, United Kingdom
Posts: 797
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: (0)
Re: Guide: Arch Rolling/Extending

true, but it all depends what your budget it. and the whole car is being re-painted anyway.

but as is titled, this is a guide for people that do want to do it themselves
__________________
Karl



CINQ SOLD! now the owner of a escy GTi.... slightly faster
K4RL is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2007   #6
Erm...........
 
cheeqic_nto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sunny Torquay
Posts: 370
Thanks: 0
Trader Rating: (0)
cheeqic_nto has donated! United Kingdom 
Re: Guide: Arch Rolling/Extending

Originally Posted by warrior View Post
but no offence you could just go down the road to wheel man and get them rolled properly with the proper machine for 25quid a side and then you want have to paint your arch again
Arch rolling machine will only roll the return lip up out the way, Karls guide shows how he got the euro look pulled out arches.
Good guide by the way dude
__________________
Dirty Yellow Box
cheeqic_nto is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2007   #7
 
K4RL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: mansfield, United Kingdom
Posts: 797
Thanks: 1
Trader Rating: (0)
Re: Guide: Arch Rolling/Extending

Originally Posted by cheeqic_nto View Post
Arch rolling machine will only roll the return lip up out the way, Karls guide shows how he got the euro look pulled out arches.
Good guide by the way dude

cheers.
__________________
Karl



CINQ SOLD! now the owner of a escy GTi.... slightly faster
K4RL is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 31-05-2007   #8
Principality Retained :)
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Midlands
Posts: 4,561
Blog Entries: 9
Thanks: 6
Trader Rating: (3)
arseofbox has donated! United Kingdom 
Re: Guide: Arch Rolling/Extending

If you want to get a decent flat face on the arch Id recommend using a proper flat faced metalwork hammer - lump hammer heads are ever so slightly rounded.
__________________
FIAT Forum Useful Links:
Donate to FF | Buy FF Merchandise | Classifieds | FF Insurance | How-to Guides | FAQs

arseofbox is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Ultimate Guide to Satellite Navigation Ozzie1989 Satellite Navigation 1 21-08-2007 18:11
(G) Fiat Bravo user guide / buyers guide paul Bravo / Brava 12 22-02-2007 21:05
(S) Is a wide arch kit possible for a 5d mk2 punto??? djrydo Punto 7 21-04-2006 20:35


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:29.

Copyright ©2002 - 2009 FIAT Forum
Proudly hosted by iNETFX Message Boards and Forums Directory