i was wondering if somone who already has one can answer few questions

how much petrol it uses on highway and city driving
is there something that breaks down often
driving comfortability?
should i get diesel or petrol

1. Petrol depends on how it's driven, £20 can last me a week or up to 3 depending what mood I'm in

2. Not a lot of reliability issues, however t-jet 150's have the m32 gearbox which is known in Vauxhall land for reliability issues, not had any with mine but there are a few who have,

Clutch pedal to master cylinder clip has a habit of breaking, happened to me not long ago,

Cars that have auto climate control have an issue where a part breaks off/wears out behind the dashboard, you'll know it by getting hot air through one side and cold on the other

3. I find it comfortable enough although a footrest beside the clutch would be good

4. Petrol or dirty diesel is up to you, if you do a lot of motorway miles then diesel, if not petrol it is

twice per week i will do highway driving around 480km total, rest is just city driving

That sort of driving i'd get a 1.9 mJTD. Partially because of the reduced fuel consumpiton, but also because they have a different, more robust gearbox. The petrols gearboxes do not like sustained highspeed driving. (Have a google about the M32 box).

I bought a petrol recently, absolutely love driving it, get about 30MPG around town, closer to 40 on the dual carriageways. All depends how you drive it though.

The 1.9 also has the M32, the 2.0mjet has a different box.

1.8Stilo said:

The 1.9 also has the M32, the 2.0mjet has a different box.

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No it doesn't, only the 150 t-jets have the m32

s130 said:

Below is the 2007 Nuova Bravo eLearn official gearbox usage by model.

1.4 16v = C514.6 (6 speed
1.4 16v T-Jet 150BHP = M32 (6 speed
1.9 Multijet 8v 120BHP = C530.5 (5 speed
1.9 Multijet 8v 90BHP = C530.5 (5 speed
1.9 Multijet 8v 115BHP = C530.5 (5 speed
1.9 Multijet 16v = C530.6 (6 speed

Note! The current 2012/2013, 1.4, 1.4 Multiair and 1.6 MJet all have 6 speed boxes so could be using either an M32 or C530.6 or another gearbox.

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That's weird as the 1.9 8v out my Grande had the M32 as does the 1.6 Grande/bravo. I've had 3 cars with the M32 gearbox done alot of miles in all of them and no problems. I wouldn't worry about.

We don't have all the engines listed above in the UK (such as the 1.9 Multijet 90 & 115bhp).

I was of the understanding, like 1.8Stilo that the following engines had the M32 box:

1.4 16v T-Jet 120bhp
1.4 16v T-Jet 150bhp
1.9 16v Multijet 150bhp

The 1.6 Multijet's (105 & 120bhp) also have the M32, I believe (as mentioned above).

The 1.9 8v Multijet 120bhp has a 5 speed box, which is fine. The 2.0 Multijet 165bhp uses a different 6 speed box (same as Alfa Giulietta 6 speed) and is less problematic with bearings than M32 I believe.

There's also a 1.4 16v non-turbo (95bhp) which can have gearbox problems, but it's not the M32 box and the problems aren't as common.

I've no idea which gearbox the 1.4 MultiAir 140 engine uses, but as it was introduced later in the Bravo's life, there are hardly any of them around anyway.

The 1.9 Multijet 120 is probably the most robust, as it does without the 6 speed gearbox and very rarely has a Particulate Filter (DPF) like the newer 1.6 & 2.0 diesels.

1.4 multiair also has the dreaded M32 ...... Pound for pound I've found my bravo the best car I've owned. Build quality is a lot better that my stilo and It's great on a journey, especially if it's got cruise and fuel compsumpion on the 1.4 multiair is a steady 50mpg on a 60mph motorway stint. The boot could be bigger if I was being picky. I also genuinely think it looks pretty handsome to look at too - not your usual boring eurobox. Get one and you will be pleasantly surprised

thx for suggestions

I'd definitely recommend the diesel. I do 400+ miles a week and I regret not buying a multijet; I get maybe around 38mpg, doing 50/50 motorway/city driving, and after filling the tank on a Sunday night, I have to refuel by Friday morning/evening (depending on how I've driven).

bravo86gaz said:

Cars that have auto climate control have an issue where a part breaks off/wears out behind the dashboard, you'll know it by getting hot air through one side and cold on the other

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Any more details on this one Gaz? It's happened to me

Some links to climate control issues

lyubohar said:

Resetting is done when your ignition is "On" and you keep both round A/C buttons pressed until the countdown on the screen is 0. Then you wait for the checks and write down the code it returns and check what it means. The ECU also stores A/C errors and gives more meaningfull information.

Here all other actuator failure threads:
https://www.fiatforum.com/bravo/342954-air-recirculation-acuator.html
https://www.fiatforum.com/bravo/303249-climate-control-issues.html
https://www.fiatforum.com/stilo/233242-climate-control-problem-fixing-guide.html
https://www.fiatforum.com/stilo/278383-climate-control-error-codes.html
https://www.fiatforum.com/members-motors/347088-my-bravo-1-4-t-jet-120hp-maranello-rosso.html

Guess why I keep them at hand

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Some links to climate control issues

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What does it mean when you get on the right side number2 than nothing, suddenly you see the right side counting up to 5 and than it goes back in normal Celsius mode?

1.6 Diesel 105 is quiet comfortable and keeps up with traffic OK. Tows a caravan quite well too. BUT depreciation is VERY VERY heavy so be prepared for the value to drop and for resale to be hard.

I have now had mine for nearly 2 years and it has worn very well. Tyres last 25-30K miles on the front and 55K on the back . I have just changed the first back tyre.
Still on all original brake parts too. Oil consumption is nil.

Poor build quality is a substantial issue with some bad welding letting in water over the hatch back..... Mine is OK but see the threads on this on here. Rear tyres may wear like mine with 2mm of tread on the outside edge and6mm on the inside edge! But 55K miles overall is OK its just irritating.

I like my car but don't love it. The head restraints are mounted to far forward for so called safety reasons and cause neck ache on long runs. It reminds me I need to bend them back out of the way to stop this issue.

If purchase price is important these cars are good value but you need to remember the depreciation issue which is severe.

Hope this helps.

Forgot to say, My 1.6D 105 does anything from about 56mpg to over 80mpg if driven steadily at below 70mph. While it is not a fast car this does compensate. It has done over 55mpg over the last 4000 miles according to the computer.

I have a 1.4 non tubo Fiat Panda and that does a steady 43mpg or a bit more towards 50mpg if I drive it very gently. Dont expect to much economy from this engine in a bigger car.

80mpg? thats nothing

80 Miles per gallon =
2.94018229 l/100km