General Bravo 2.0 multijet 165 bhp

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General Bravo 2.0 multijet 165 bhp

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Hi all,

Having owned fiats in the past I am now seriously thinking purchasing a bravo 2, 0 multijet 165 bhp.

I haven't read much about this car but wpuld like to hear some the owners opinions.

What is it like to drive?
Real mpg? How many miles can you do to a full tank?
Any faults?

Many thanks
Andre
 
Is the 165 only available as sport Or can you have dynamic and active versions? I'f you can then there are varying differences between the models that will affect day to day driving, simple things like cruise control, climate control, Bluetooth. All vary between models. And greatly differ your driving experience. So what model are you looking at. Then we can get to the good part, the engines (y)
 
Hi Mathew
The sport trim is the one I am looking for mainly for the aggressive looks :)

I am not sure if othrer trims are available with the 165bhp 165 bhp engine :)

Thanks ♧
 
I'm certain that the 165 is available in both Sport and Dynamic trim.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../radius/200/page/2/postcode/sp103hr?logcode=p

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/fiat/bravo/hatchback-2007/

Of course the Sport is better looks wise and most have plenty of extras to match up with the Dynamic's. Be aware of the harder ride though in the Sport.

I love mine and wouldn't change it for anything, certainly not for now anyway. In terms of value for money I think they are unbeatable.

With careful driving I get about 50-53mpg on my 50 mile (round trip) daily commute to work in moderate traffic. 75% of which is Dual Carriageway. When I drive a bit more enthusiastically, which you need to do every so often, it will return about 46-48mpg.

On a long journey you can easily achieve 55mpg (indicated).

650 miles is easily achievable from a tank.

The 2.0 certainly seems to be the most refined and mechanically sound. It may not return as good MPG as the smaller 1.6 (which I had in a MiTo) however it does cruise better IMO.

This car is at its best at motorway speed and really isn't ideal if you are going to be driving around town most of the time or doing short journeys.

Ensure whatever you buy has a full service history and the correct specification of oil has been used. This is an absolute must. DPF problems are probably inevitable if the incorrect oil has been used. If in doubt, avoid.
 
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I say available but should say in existance (just). It will be a real shame if Fiat don't release a replacement for the Bravo with a decent line up of engines. I can't imagine having to replace mine for a 1.3 MultiJet :(
 
I'm certain that the 165 is available in both Sport and Dynamic trim.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../radius/200/page/2/postcode/sp103hr?logcode=p

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/fiat/bravo/hatchback-2007/

Of course the Sport is better looks wise and most have plenty of extras to match up with the Dynamic's. Be aware of the harder ride though in the Sport.

I love mine and wouldn't change it for anything, certainly not for now anyway. In terms of value for money I think they are unbeatable.

With careful driving I get about 50-53mpg on my 50 mile (round trip) daily commute to work in moderate traffic. 75% of which is Dual Carriageway. When I drive a bit more enthusiastically, which you need to do every so often, it will return about 46-48mpg.

On a long journey you can easily achieve 55mpg (indicated).

650 miles is easily achievable from a tank.

The 2.0 certainly seems to be the most refined and mechanically sound. It may not return as good MPG as the smaller 1.6 (which I had in a MiTo) however it does cruise better IMO.

This car is at its best at motorway speed and really isn't ideal if you are going to be driving around town most of the time or doing short journeys.

Ensure whatever you buy has a full service history and the correct specification of oil has been used. This is an absolute must. DPF problems are probably inevitable if the incorrect oil has been used. If in doubt, avoid.

Ah right, funny enough that red Dynamic 165 is in Norwich, passed it when for sale in August, still hasn't sold :p :eek:

Personally I prefer practicality and toys over looks so will always have the Dynamic over Sport - depends which you prefer :)
 
Just had a phone call from a dealer saying that the bravo 2.0 they had for sale is going for auction due to the DPF needing to be replaced.

the car is a 09 plate with 26k!!!

does this show this engine is not reliable?

Thanks
 
Not necessarily could of been driven the wrong way. As MEP said diesels need to be used properly and thoroughly. Once sorted and driven properly it will probably be a great engine. I also think that the garage may be trying to pull you into a quicker sale with the auction comment. Whilst I don't presume to know whether he's actually doing it, it could be just a plot,
 
If you're after a Sport make sure you take it for a good test drive and you're happy with the suspension. Especially if it has 18" rims the suspension is quite stiff. Oh, and you can get the sport with all the toys, the only option mine doesn't have is the xenon headlights. I personally wouldn't bother with the auto wipers and lights if I was buying one again. If you can find one with a skydome make sure it works smoothly.
 
does this show this engine is not reliable?

Nope, shows the previous owner was an idiot. Who has a Diesel car and does 6500miles a year?

Shows the car obviously isn't being used correctly IMO.

Fiat are leaders in Diesel engineering and are leading the industry ATM, hence why they're lumps are used by a lot of other manufactured. (y)

The 1.6 and 2.0 MJ engines are fairly trouble free from personal experience and what I've seen on here :)
 
This could be a steal, offer them a dirt cheap price, have the DPF professionally removed... Win win

It makes sense for a 09 car with 26000 miles to have DPF issues / failure.

If you are looking for a decent 09 plate you should be looking for it to have at least 50,000 miles on the clock. A full service history is most important. Low mileage is rarely ideal.

An 09 should have the cam belt changed very soon as well if it hasn't been done.
 
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and how much do you guys think a dpf removal will be?

thanks
 
and how much do you guys think a dpf removal will be?

thanks

It really depends on where you live and if there are any specialists in your area. It's not the type of job a typical mechanic would undertake.

I looked in to it and got a quote of about £600 including a remap (AHM Alfa in Surrey www.alfacare.co.uk). I am led to believe this is at least what you would pay to replace it.

From what I've read and been told there are great benefits of DPF removal such as improved economy and performance however you should declare it to your insurance company. How it affects your premium will vary between companies, some will see it as a performance enhancement but others may not.

MEP - will being able to clean it up depend on how "clogged" it is? i.e. Are they always repairable?
 
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Does the engine get more reliable without DPF?

What sort of power do you get with DPF removal + remap?

thanks
 
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