Tuning TMC tuning box anyone fitted to T Jet 150?

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Tuning TMC tuning box anyone fitted to T Jet 150?

Hey,

I have had my TMC tuning kit on my bravo t-jet 150 sport for the past year in conjunction with a ragazzon exhaust.

All I can say the TMC kit makes a big difference. Much happier to rev all the way to the redline, a good significant boost in power.

I have only good things to say about the customer service from TMC.

Go for It!
 
Hey,

I have had my TMC tuning kit on my bravo t-jet 150 sport for the past year in conjunction with a ragazzon exhaust.

All I can say the TMC kit makes a big difference. Much happier to rev all the way to the redline, a good significant boost in power.

I have only good things to say about the customer service from TMC.

Go for It!


cool cheers

what about the exhaust does it sound any different?
 
although i have the Mjet version of the tmc i aggre with the above post its great value for money and the service has been more than acceptable :)

although i may have burnt out my clutch :D getting some kncking noises everyso often so will need to investigate further over the weekend and hopefully its not to much torque going though the clutch :D
 
it is a proper remap - have you read the info on the site or just repeating what the Hoff has told you? :rolleyes:

A tuning box is not a proper live tailored remap. It assumes things about your engine, when clearly every engine is different.

Is this a tuning box or a live remap done on rollers?
 
you can go either way on this as when i got mine thinkn it was daren whos in charge said if needed the software can be udpated if you modify your engine so its not a Live remap but its essentialy still the same as a remap
 
you can go either way on this as when i got mine thinkn it was daren whos in charge said if needed the software can be udpated if you modify your engine so its not a Live remap but its essentialy still the same as a remap

99% of so called live remaps out there are nothing of the sort, most companies buy in pre-written files and load them in, then if they need tweaked they will ask whoever wrote it to adjust it slightly. Most people are in cloud cookoo land in respect of what re-mapping involves, in many cases the bare minimum of changes will be made as long as it gets results.

These boxes actually make live adjustments as the engine is running by using the camshaft sensor to detect RPM and adjust to various mapped settings at various rpm, our box is every bit as complex as a remap. Also it can be updated at any time if we further improve the mapping, this is offered free of charge to customers. Our adjustments can also be done live on the dyno or even live on the road whilst the vehicle is driving, I can also disable the box whilst driving to show the driver the difference in performance.

I recently looked at a 290bhp Abarth 500 tuned by a well known German tuner, it runs with a tuning box not a so called 'proper remap' ;)
 
cheers for confirming that for me TMC is it darren again i cant remember :D but i remember you saying something along the lines that you could update the box if needed :D
 
try and keep the remap advice to threads where people ask for remap advice and box advice to box advice threads, it keeps the forums a lot more tidy and user friendly ;)

True, but also doesn't give the full picture to anyone reading the thread.

If someone asks about fitting ditchfinder tyres should no one be allowed to suggest better tyres for the car?

I'm sure the TMC tuning box is pretty good, they've come along was recently. I'd rather have a before and after rolling road printout showing my proven gains and spent a few hours with the mapped.

I also wouldn't suggest a tuning box or remap on it's own. Breathing mods should be done to 'unrestrict' the tuneability of the engine.

The TMC Bloke said:
I recently looked at a 290bhp Abarth 500 tuned by a well known German tuner, it runs with a tuning box not a so called 'proper remap

Not sure what point your trying to make. Anybody could remap/apply a tuning box and get OMGZ WOW figures but if it's not driveable or reliable whats the point.

I'd also bet a fair few pennies that a simple tuning box hadn't taken a 1.4 150bhp~ Fiat to 290bhp.

I'd also imagine the tuning box would have worked great had that owned just applied it to the standard engine, but the tuning box won't be taking into account the other mods that would have been done - a remap can do this.

If you're in some odd european country where there isn't a decent mapper then brilliant a TMC tuning box is probably going to be your best bet. However if you live in the UK and can be bothered to take a day off work to get your car looked at in real life then for the same price shouldn't it be considered?
 
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I'm sure the TMC tuning box is pretty good, they've come along was recently. I'd rather have a before and after rolling road printout showing my proven gains and spent a few hours with the mapped.

you can do both some one on here took his tmc box to red dot and had it fitted there and got the before and after rr and the chance of independent tuners options on it too, there is a thread on here some where about it.

you only have to look through the op's other threads to see that they have had remaps in the past so dont need no info on them, that's why they have titled this thread to get advice from people who have first hand experience of the item in the thread title.

not another thread of people saying its not worth it who haven't even tried it. that is also against the forum rules btw https://www.fiatforum.com/rules.html
 
True, but also doesn't give the full picture to anyone reading the thread.

No but neither does just saying 'get a proper remap' with no info to state why.

If someone asks about fitting ditchfinder tyres should no one be allowed to suggest better tyres for the car?
My product is not comparable to ditchfinder tyres and how can you suggest something as being better when you have no first hand knowledge of the other product, you can say here is an alternative that I recommend.

I'm sure the TMC tuning box is pretty good, they've come along was recently. I'd rather have a before and after rolling road printout showing my proven gains and spent a few hours with the mapped.
We have been using the same advanced box since the Tjet came out the only recent advances are improvements to the mapping, you can also take the car to rollers if you like, I have lots of dyno graphs from Tjets if you'd like to see one just let me know and i'll email it to you. The gains we quote are not only proven but are being exceeded by cars tested on the dyno. To do live mapping as you're describing needs an emulator connected to the ECU to allow live adjustments, very very few people have this equipment so your live remap is in most cases just file after file being loaded in until the power is right, not live mapping.

I also wouldn't suggest a tuning box or remap on it's own. Breathing mods should be done to 'unrestrict' the tuneability of the engine.
This is fine if the person has the money for that but most do mods in stages, if you look at peoples wish lists there are usually 5 or 6 things they intend doing but will list which they want to do first and which later when they get the funds together. We also found only small gains 4-5 bhp with induction kits, tri foam replacement panel filters worked almost as well with alot less fitting involved.



Not sure what point your trying to make. Anybody could remap/apply a tuning box and get OMGZ WOW figures but if it's not driveable or reliable whats the point.
Exactly.

I'd also bet a fair few pennies that a simple tuning box hadn't taken a 1.4 150bhp~ Fiat to 290bhp.
No obviously this car had serious engine work, bigger turbo and lots of other stuff but it makes a point that a tuning box was able to adapt to those mods to give the desired power output.

I'd also imagine the tuning box would have worked great had that owned just applied it to the standard engine, but the tuning box won't be taking into account the other mods that would have been done - a remap can do this.
It can be adapted to other mods fitted as above.


If you're in some odd european country where there isn't a decent mapper then brilliant a TMC tuning box is probably going to be your best bet. However if you live in the UK and can be bothered to take a day off work to get your car looked at in real life then for the same price shouldn't it be considered?
I don't get your logic here, I have over 200 cars in UK running Tjet boxes getting in many cases better results than many mapped cars, so why do you insist a remap must be better? We do both remapping and boxes and on Tjets can generally get better results with a box on a standard car. You can also re-use the box on your next car with a new loom and re-program and take it off for servicing and if the dealer flashes new software to your car which most do now this will wipe off your remap and you have to go back again to have it re-done, many companies will charge a fee for this, the tuning box is unaffected by these software flashes. If someone wants a remap thats fine but many people know that it is semi permanent and for various reasons want a removable alternative which leaves no trace when removed. We do re-mapping too but generally on older cars out of warranty because people know the issues with dealers doing software updates and wiping off the maps, its an inconvenience for some people, in fact I have a BMW X5 owner coming back today for the second time to have his remap written back in after a dealer update wiped it again.
 
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No but neither does just saying 'get a proper remap' with no info to state why.

My product is not comparable to ditchfinder tyres and how can you suggest something as being better when you have no first hand knowledge of the other product, you can say here is an alternative that I recommend.

We have been using the same advanced box since the Tjet came out the only recent advances are improvements to the mapping, you can also take the car to rollers if you like, I have lots of dyno graphs from Tjets if you'd like to see one just let me know and i'll email it to you. The gains we quote are not only proven but are being exceeded by cars tested on the dyno. To do live mapping as you're describing needs an emulator connected to the ECU to allow live adjustments, very very few people have this equipment so your live remap is in most cases just file after file being loaded in until the power is right, not live mapping.

This is fine if the person has the money for that but most do mods in stages, if you look at peoples wish lists there are usually 5 or 6 things they intend doing but will list which they want to do first and which later when they get the funds together. We also found only small gains 4-5 bhp with induction kits, tri foam replacement panel filters worked almost as well with alot less fitting involved.



Exactly.

No obviously this car had serious engine work, bigger turbo and lots of other stuff but it makes a point that a tuning box was able to adapt to those mods to give the desired power output.

It can be adapted to other mods fitted as above.


I don't get your logic here, I have over 200 cars in UK running Tjet boxes getting in many cases better results than many mapped cars, so why do you insist a remap must be better? We do both remapping and boxes and on Tjets can generally get better results with a box on a standard car. You can also re-use the box on your next car with a new loom and re-program and take it off for servicing and if the dealer flashes new software to your car which most do now this will wipe off your remap and you have to go back again to have it re-done, many companies will charge a fee for this, the tuning box is unaffected by these software flashes. If someone wants a remap thats fine but many people know that it is semi permanent and for various reasons want a removable alternative which leaves no trace when removed. We do re-mapping too but generally on older cars out of warranty because people know the issues with dealers doing software updates and wiping off the maps, its an inconvenience for some people, in fact I have a BMW X5 owner coming back today for the second time to have his remap written back in after a dealer update wiped it again.

I won't derail the thread anymore by commenting back.

I also didn't mean to compare your product to ditchfinder tyres, take it as a 'You can't really mention a 3 series without also considering an A4 and a C class'.

When I said 'come along way recently' this wasn't in reference specifically to the Tjet box but the whole idea of a tuning box and such. I know Ford fan boys love the Dreamscene stuff with 5 maps and the ability to unplug it, compared with x years ago when it was simply messing with the throttle response and flooding the engine with excess petrol.
 
not another thread of people saying its not worth it who haven't even tried it. that is also against the forum rules btw https://www.fiatforum.com/rules.html

I assume you mean this rule



  • You may not use discussions to recommend, praise, or belittle other products or services, or any company; without first hand experience of those products or services

As far as I see it, I didn't belittle 'other products or services' simply expressed my opinion that a product I have used would be a better option.

So I recommended and praised a product I had used, and stated that the other product may be brilliant, but in my eyes not quite as good.


;)
 
yes that is where you broke the rule you cant say that the product you used is better than another without trying both first hand

I never said anything bad about the TMC tuning box, infact the only time I've mentioned it is to say something along the lines of "I'm sure it's very good".

I was talking about tuning boxes in general - a field have experience in.

I said a tuning box is okay - this is fine as I've used tuning boxes in the past
I said a remap in my opinion is better - this is fine as I've used remaps in the past

The same way you would generalise RWD as being a better method of drivetrain to FWD.
 
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