(G) 2.0 Multijet engines?

Reading the press lately about the Vectra replacement (Insignia?) I noticed they mentioned a pair of 2.0. litre diesels being on the cards for this car. Could these be new versions of the existing 1.9 MJ motors. The power outputs mentioned were no higher (I think) than the ones available in the Bravo. So, the question, bearing in mind that Saab have taken the new higher
output 1.9 MJs, is: Are these 2.0 engines that will soon be seen in FIATs as development of JTDm/MJ or have Vauxhall broken with FIAT and sourced their diesels elsewhere?

I guess fiat goes with the 1.6

No mention of 2.0 MJ on here....

http://www.fptpowertrain.com/eng/pdf/Comunicato_uk.pdf

There is definitely a 2.0 MultiJet coming (see this thread) in the 165BHP Bravo GT.

Where does the 2.0 Multijet fit in with the bi-turbo 1.9?????

Is that definitely happening? Seems odd that Fiat would announce a 2.0 if a twin-turbo 1.9 was on the cards?

Pictures on Fiat powertrain website of the bi-turbo (surely it's bi rather than twin as the turbo's are not identicle )

They made quite a bit of noise about the 100bhp per litre so be strange to kill that before it's been fully utilised.

I'm sure you're right. I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to the techy stuff

Being saved for Sporting/Abarth version?

or

Idea scrapped after the accountants got hold of it?

Who knows if it's twin or bi.... I'm just guessing!

Only time will tell I suppose about what's going to happen. Two spinny things would have been fun

The sad fact is that Bravo sales will have to dramatically improve before Fiat contemplate spending money releasing anything really exciting

Fiat have always been the other way around... releasing the 'hot' version years after the launch of the normal model. They really need something to lead the brand in a way that has been lacking since they dropped the Coupe.

From what I understand, the 2.0 Multijet will be an upsized version of the 1.6, which is an all-new engine. I don't think that Fiat will be able to launch a multitude of different versions (think of how many different versions of the 1.9exist at the moment) at the same time, so it will gradually replace the 1.9 but I'm expecting it to start at about 130HP or even 136, above the 120 offered on the 1.6. I expect the 1.9 biturbo will be the last survivor as it also comes in a number of GM cars such as Opel, Saab and even Cadillac. The 1.9 will certainly stay with the Alfa 147 to the end as it's not worth the trouble of replacing and the same for any other Fiat Group vehicle that is about to be phased out.

Most Opel diesels not made by Fiat come from Isuzu and that may be where the new Opel 2.0 will be sourced.

As far as I know, SAAB now uses a 180 HP 1.9 bi-turbo made by FIAT, which kept a 190 HP version for use on their future models... Maybe some Alfa, who knows.

A 170 hp version of the 1,9 16V Multijet engine is available in the Alfa GT.
http://www.italiaspeed.com/2008/cars...jtdm/1902.html

From what i've rad the 190 hp 1,9 16V twin-stage turbo should start production in june and be used in Alfas. It would, however, be cool to have that engine in A Bravo.

The 2,0 Mutlijet is still a few years away (and from what i understand, is a further development of the 1,9, while the 1,6 is further development of the 1,3).

I believe that the 1.6 has a cambelt , not chain, so I doubt it is developed from the chaincam 1.3.

I had understood it was a development of the 1.9, but I'm not certain about this.