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Old 25-10-2006   #1
 
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hi, new to the forum and after a little advice.
Had a punture on my Bravo 100SX yesterday so i have taken it as a sign to get alloys.
I have brought some 17" with 205/40/17 tyres on and i beleave they wll fit.
i have orderd some wobbly bolts to sort that little bit out but was wondering if i will need anything else like spacers (if they do not come with the wheels) in order to fit the wheels? Can anybody tell me as i am new to this?
Also got told that my front breaks are corroding but i feel it was a bit of a sell to try to get me to cough up. Im going to get it checked in a place i trust but if they do need changing i will probably upgrade them and put some greenstuff pads on. Does anyone know the average price to get the disks and pads fitted?
thanks for any help and sorry if these are really newbe questions but hey, we have so start somewhere right.
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Re: wheels

To fully answer we would need the wheels ofset. As for changing discs and pads that's a very easy DIY job if you are mythodical enough.

One thing I'll say is your brakes will look tiny under 17" alloys! Acceleration is also going to be down a bit and the ride may well be harsh. Take great care in the wet with 205 width tyres...
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all i can say is i have orderd the wheels from rochfordtyres.co.uk, http://www.\/product.asp?numPageStar...eria=&PT_ID=96 these ones to be exact.
17" seem to look good on Bravos and alot of people seem to say to go for 17" rather then 16 as i was thinking. Im not all about performance although it is nice, i went for the wheels because they look a bit different from the norm and dont look to be all shiny and chrome which i hate.
Being new to this i didnt realise about the camber untill today and i orderd last night, sorting out alloys is a lot harder then it seems to get everything right, i just hope i have not made a big mistake.
I got an upgrade to the tyers and tried to get something that is a little better in the wet (going on reviews) so went for Avon ZZ3 tyres.
Acceleration should be ok for me, not had the car long and had a 1L micra before.
Brakes are something i might have a go at but it is an important part of a car so im not too sure
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Take great care in the wet with 205 width tyres...
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the extra width makes it easy to aquaplane. thinner tyres can cut through the water more easily, wider ones can travel over the water and loose grip more easily, especially at speed. motorway puddles can become deathtraps, i've changed lanes without even moving the steering wheel on the motorway with wide wheels on. it scared the crap out of me, if i drifted the other way i would have left the road.

basically wider tyres are bettter in the dry and worse in the wet. but you dont drive as fast in the wet so as long as your careful its no big deal.
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Originally Posted by warreic
all i can say is i have orderd the wheels from rochfordtyres.co.uk,
in that case you dont need wobbly bolts or spacers, buying new wheels will usually mean you get the correct ones for the car, provided you've told rochford what car you have. if they aren't sending you the correct ones for your car i wouldn't pay for them, the whole point of buying new is you get exactly what you want. if rochford dont stock the correct fitment for your car just go elsewhere.

if they are sending you the correct wheels for your car do not use wobbly bolts, they will shear. you should only use wobbly bolts on 100pcd wheels, and if you buy wheels designed for your car they will be 98pcd.
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the extra width makes it easy to aquaplane. thinner tyres can cut through the water more easily, wider ones can travel over the water and loose grip more easily, especially at speed. motorway puddles can become deathtraps, i've changed lanes without even moving the steering wheel on the motorway with wide wheels on. it scared the crap out of me, if i drifted the other way i would have left the road.

basically wider tyres are bettter in the dry and worse in the wet. but you dont drive as fast in the wet so as long as your careful its no big deal.
o i thought they were good in any weather looks like its suday driving for me lol
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Originally Posted by drunknspike
o i thought they were good in any weather looks like its suday driving for me lol
did you not notice that the car slides round corners in the wet much more easily that it did before you stuck the alloys on?

another one of the reasons i prefer 15's is that 195/50 tyres are a good compromise for all conditions, they give good dry handling, safe wet driving, firm enough to feel the road yet also soft enough for stable cornering on rough surfaces, and a cheap price.

205's aren't much wider so its not a big deal, but a light car with 205's is much more risky that a big car, such as a BMW 3 series, that is designed to have tyres of that width. the extra weight applies more force to the tyres helping to prevent aquaplaning and slip.
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