Does anybody have any suggestion as to where to put a fire extinguisher in the B? After having some leaking fuel pipes I ended up buying a 1kg extinguisher, but I have no idea where to put it. Anybody reckon it would be ok to fasten the mount (2 screws) on the small vertical area between footwell and the passenger seat?
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Are you drilling into the centre console or the floorpan?
Not quite; was the wrong angle - but ta nontheless 
But at any rate, I was thinking of mounting it on the part right below the cushion for the arse of the passenger seat. Capisce?
The boot would indeed be better, but it's a little far away in case of fire. But, in case I end up putting it there - any suggestion for where to stick it (except where the sun doesn't shine)?
But at any rate, I was thinking of mounting it on the part right below the cushion for the arse of the passenger seat. Capisce? The boot would indeed be better, but it's a little far away in case of fire. But, in case I end up putting it there - any suggestion for where to stick it (except where the sun doesn't shine)?
Personally first off I'd swap it for a 2l afff (foam) extinguisher if you can ( put out a engine fire last week at work foam for a engine fire is the better option where residual heat can cause re ignition )
Can you not fabricate a metal bracket to go between the 2 passenger seat rails like some German cars have? see the misc guides too
Can you not fabricate a metal bracket to go between the 2 passenger seat rails like some German cars have? see the misc guides too
Hiya guys, Just signed in after a long time and funny you should mention a fire extinguisher. I,ll get to that point later in my story.
Decided to get the B back on the road after a having it off for most part off this and last year due to another new baby girl and other family commitments.
So First Thing! I Needed to pay Road tax for which was a year and half and a fine for late payment which cost 357 euros
Anyhow! Exited to uncover the B and my awe how good it looked after such a long time covered up. First thing I noticed after opening the bonnet to install the battery was that my battery tray had rat droppings in from where I imagine one had been sleeping and nesting in the engine bay.
Now I know :idea: why my Tia would bark under the covered B at certain times of the day and night.
Anyhow after my small shock and clean up, I proceed to install the battery but to no avail.
It had died and even after charging would not hold charge no more.
So then I connect to my tractor battery and jump leads and she fires up.
WEY HEY! I feel. but then I notice oil leaking from under the bumper for which led to be from the oil cooler pipes.
OK, so now after my initial shock and surprise I decide to remove the bumper and investigate further. I notice that the pipes had been nibbled from what I can say must have been the rat or super mouse.
Anyhow, I now proceed to remove both pipes and travel in town to make new ones.
14 euros later and wey hey, a cheap fix I say to myself and two new oil cooler pipes.
So anyhow now back home I fit the new pipes, re-install the bumper and again jump start the B. WEY HEY!!
Decide to drive in to town with the B and search for a new battery and lucky enough find an even stronger one than before and its even slightly smaller. The only down side is that the connections are different and I would need to make new ones or replace my cable fittings.
Anyhow , I buy the new battery discounted for 80 euro from 125 and off I go to an auto electrician a short distance away to fit it, after some negative comments on my new battery, I drive away to a friends Car Radio shop and find myself two new Gold connectors for the new Battery another 15 euros and a half hour time fitting and we have one new battery and connections.
OK!! Now pleased with myself, I decide to take the B for a nice drive and cruise and head for the beach which is a 40 minute drive down the motorway.
Its takes around ten minutes through town traffic before I get to the motorway junction and just before I,m about to join it there is a last stop petrol station.
OK! Now to the start of my story and the fire extinguisher.
Now I,m on a one way carriageway and I have past the entry to the station but suddenly feel thirsty and swing into the exit and into the garage before my 40 minute drive on the motorway. Leaving the B running I pop into get a bottle of water and look over to the B. .
I see smoke rising out and under the B's bonnet.
My first thought is the oil pipes have come loose and the heat has them cooking or steaming on the manifold.
I run over open the bonnet and to my surprise fine a small fire burning beside the radiator.
Now just by the pump is the fire extinguisher which I grab with the help of the attendant and extinguish the fire.
Now quite shocked by the experience and mess created but lucky enough I say that I pulled into the garage last minute before getting on the motorway.
Had it caught fire there it may have been another story and possibly a terrible end for the B.
OK! So now I need to clean up the engine bay and see the damaged caused. There is a jet wash in the station and so after a spray find the cause of the fire to be the radiator connections melted and which caught fire.
To my amazement the damage is minor and apart from a melted connection and the fans not working I travel slowly down the motorway to my nephews garage where we strip back the radiator loom and discover that the Naughty Dirty little rat had chewed into the cables creating a short.
NOW! after a having the bumper off again striping the radiator loom, A few trips for spares and wires, making a new heat and fire protected cabled loom.
along with the new battery, new connectors , new oil cooler pipes, another 40 euro and another good wash and valet finally have the B running and looking good again. WEY HEY!!!!
In all the excitement and shock of the day never managed to take pictures except for my new battery when I bought it.
Just adding up the cost of getting the B back on the road
:bang: 506 euros. and Id have to add a Fire extinguisher to the shopping list too.
So Robot and everyone , Id say its definitely a good idea to have a small fire extinguisher anywhere in the B because you never know.
I,ll get to that point later in my story. Decided to get the B back on the road after a having it off for most part off this and last year due to another new baby girl and other family commitments.
So First Thing! I Needed to pay Road tax for which was a year and half and a fine for late payment which cost 357 euros
Anyhow! Exited to uncover the B and my awe how good it looked after such a long time covered up. First thing I noticed after opening the bonnet to install the battery was that my battery tray had rat droppings in from where I imagine one had been sleeping and nesting in the engine bay.
Now I know :idea: why my Tia would bark under the covered B at certain times of the day and night.
Anyhow after my small shock and clean up, I proceed to install the battery but to no avail.
It had died and even after charging would not hold charge no more.
So then I connect to my tractor battery and jump leads and she fires up.
WEY HEY! I feel. but then
I notice oil leaking from under the bumper for which led to be from the oil cooler pipes. OK, so now after my initial shock and surprise I decide to remove the bumper and investigate further. I notice that the pipes had been nibbled from what I can say must have been the rat or super mouse.
Anyhow, I now proceed to remove both pipes and travel in town to make new ones.
14 euros later and wey hey, a cheap fix I say to myself and two new oil cooler pipes.
So anyhow now back home I fit the new pipes, re-install the bumper and again jump start the B.
WEY HEY!! Decide to drive in to town with the B and search for a new battery and lucky enough find an even stronger one than before and its even slightly smaller.
The only down side is that the connections are different and I would need to make new ones or replace my cable fittings. Anyhow , I buy the new battery discounted for 80 euro from 125 and off I go to an auto electrician a short distance away to fit it, after some negative comments on my new battery, I drive away to a friends Car Radio shop and find myself two new Gold connectors for the new Battery another 15 euros and a half hour time fitting and we have one new battery and connections.
OK!! Now pleased with myself, I decide to take the B for a nice drive and cruise and head for the beach which is a 40 minute drive down the motorway.
Its takes around ten minutes through town traffic before I get to the motorway junction and just before I,m about to join it there is a last stop petrol station.
OK!
Now to the start of my story and the fire extinguisher. Now I,m on a one way carriageway and I have past the entry to the station but suddenly feel thirsty and swing into the exit and into the garage before my 40 minute drive on the motorway. Leaving the B running I pop into get a bottle of water and look over to the B.
.I see smoke rising out and under the B's bonnet.
My first thought is the oil pipes have come loose and the heat has them cooking or steaming on the manifold.
I run over open the bonnet and to my surprise fine a small fire burning beside the radiator.
Now just by the pump is the fire extinguisher which I grab with the help of the attendant and extinguish the fire.
Now quite shocked by the experience and mess created but lucky enough I say that I pulled into the garage last minute before getting on the motorway.
Had it caught fire there it may have been another story and possibly a terrible end for the B.
OK! So now I need to clean up the engine bay and see the damaged caused. There is a jet wash in the station and so after a spray find the cause of the fire to be the radiator connections melted and which caught fire.
To my amazement the damage is minor and apart from a melted connection and the fans not working I travel slowly down the motorway to my nephews garage where we strip back the radiator loom and discover that the Naughty Dirty little rat had chewed into the cables creating a short.
NOW!
after a having the bumper off again striping the radiator loom, A few trips for spares and wires, making a new heat and fire protected cabled loom. along with the new battery, new connectors , new oil cooler pipes, another 40 euro and another good wash and valet finally have the B running and looking good again. WEY HEY!!!!
In all the excitement and shock of the day never managed to take pictures except for my new battery when I bought it.
Just adding up the cost of getting the B back on the road
:bang: 506 euros. and Id have to add a Fire extinguisher to the shopping list too.So Robot and everyone , Id say its definitely a good idea to have a small fire extinguisher anywhere in the B because you never know.
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Not sure what happened earlier im blaming the crap phone signal at work.....
Dry powder is a PAIN to clean up and corrosive to bare metal and is been phased out by revised BS fire equipment legislation
powder vs foam... (old foam jet as in video are no longer in EN3 standards most are spray now in the UK) there are recent revisions re powder restricting it to essential use outside of dwellings due to the mess it causes and the loss of vision in a building to those in there when its let off (most times the insurance claim is higher for the powder damage than fire damage the dust writes off anything electronic in the vicinity along with carpets and sofas et all ...
powder vs foam
2l foam discharge time / spray pattern
one thing worth noting foam freezes in cold weather... (its water based)
this is the sort of bracket i was mentioning earlier
I would avoid this type....http://www.screwfix.com/p/firemax-foam-fire-extinguisher-1ltr/68809
give one a shake and you will see why it will drive you mental on a drive as the handle rattles along to the vibrations of the road...
id look at one like this
http://www.safelincs.co.uk/2ltr-foam-fire-extinguisher-easy-action-gloria-s2lw/
or this (which is what i carry in the GP)
http://www.a2zfire.co.uk/fire-safety/2_ltr_Foam_ABF_Fire_Extinguisher.html
Ive done a couple of fire fighting courses and in real life over what you see on TV or what ever halfords employee is pushing i'd go AFFF every time....
ive used every extinguishing medium at work over the years (not tried a chip pan one yet though)
Had a pitch kettle catch fire at work (for resurfacing tarmac) i grabbed powder and foam 9kg and 9l respectably (BIG ONES) powder knocked the fire out almost instantly but as soon as the blue cloud cleared it re lit every time till it was empty ... Foam however put it out very quickly and it didn't once re light....
only 2 weeks ago we had a Engine bay fire in one of our side loader forklift trucks oil leak coupled with an electrical fault = fire ball.....
the driver of it run into factory grabbed the first extinguisher he found (9l water jet unit ) few shouts for me go about the factory and a bit of waving and hand signals over the noise of the mill to see what the excitement is all about realise whats on fire..
I go grab the closest AFFF spray instruct the supervisor to start preparing for plant shut down...
by the time i get there the driver is happily spreading the flames with the water as it moves the oil about and makes it flare up...... he then hits the glass fuel filter housing.. which then dumps about a pint of hot diesel onto the fire as i arrive after a 30m dash carrying the 15kg , By this point ive already got the pin out given it a test squirt on my dash to the truck.... told him to stop and tackled the fire myself head on using the mist spray high up on the block allowing it to flow down into the under-tray to smother the fire .. end result i used 2-3l to get the fire out then the rest was used to damp down the smoldering insulation and soundproofing followed by 1000l of water just to be sure and cool everything
Dry powder is a PAIN to clean up and corrosive to bare metal and is been phased out by revised BS fire equipment legislation
powder vs foam... (old foam jet as in video are no longer in EN3 standards most are spray now in the UK) there are recent revisions re powder restricting it to essential use outside of dwellings due to the mess it causes and the loss of vision in a building to those in there when its let off (most times the insurance claim is higher for the powder damage than fire damage the dust writes off anything electronic in the vicinity along with carpets and sofas et all ...
powder vs foam
2l foam discharge time / spray pattern
one thing worth noting foam freezes in cold weather... (its water based)
this is the sort of bracket i was mentioning earlier
I would avoid this type....http://www.screwfix.com/p/firemax-foam-fire-extinguisher-1ltr/68809
give one a shake and you will see why it will drive you mental on a drive as the handle rattles along to the vibrations of the road...
id look at one like this
http://www.safelincs.co.uk/2ltr-foam-fire-extinguisher-easy-action-gloria-s2lw/
or this (which is what i carry in the GP)
http://www.a2zfire.co.uk/fire-safety/2_ltr_Foam_ABF_Fire_Extinguisher.html
Ive done a couple of fire fighting courses and in real life over what you see on TV or what ever halfords employee is pushing i'd go AFFF every time....
ive used every extinguishing medium at work over the years (not tried a chip pan one yet though)
Had a pitch kettle catch fire at work (for resurfacing tarmac) i grabbed powder and foam 9kg and 9l respectably (BIG ONES) powder knocked the fire out almost instantly but as soon as the blue cloud cleared it re lit every time till it was empty ... Foam however put it out very quickly and it didn't once re light....
only 2 weeks ago we had a Engine bay fire in one of our side loader forklift trucks oil leak coupled with an electrical fault = fire ball.....
the driver of it run into factory grabbed the first extinguisher he found (9l water jet unit ) few shouts for me go about the factory and a bit of waving and hand signals over the noise of the mill to see what the excitement is all about realise whats on fire..
I go grab the closest AFFF spray instruct the supervisor to start preparing for plant shut down...
by the time i get there the driver is happily spreading the flames with the water as it moves the oil about and makes it flare up...... he then hits the glass fuel filter housing.. which then dumps about a pint of hot diesel onto the fire as i arrive after a 30m dash carrying the 15kg , By this point ive already got the pin out given it a test squirt on my dash to the truck.... told him to stop and tackled the fire myself head on using the mist spray high up on the block allowing it to flow down into the under-tray to smother the fire .. end result i used 2-3l to get the fire out then the rest was used to damp down the smoldering insulation and soundproofing followed by 1000l of water just to be sure and cool everything
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biscotti
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The boot is far away if there is a fire the first thing your going to want to do is get out of the car and then direct the exstinguisher onto the fire.if you really want it in the car jow about behind the drivers seat at the base?
if there is a fire the first thing your going to want to do is get out of the car and then direct the exstinguisher onto the fire.if you really want it in the car jow about behind the drivers seat at the base?
