Technical How a Phase Variator works.

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This is a copy of a post by Craig_HGT so a big thanks to him.

Phase Variator,

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The Function of the vvt unit or phase variator is to
1. Reduce emissions
2. Produce a better torque output under various operating conditions.
(i need to verify these also, i think there might be another point to add)

The variator is fitted in between the inlet camshaft and pulley, you can just about see the base of the variator in the pic below

The pic below shows the variator better from when i removed the camshaft support and pulley, you can also see the oil supply channel which is cut into the camshaft on the second bearing journal.

Operation.

The solenoid valve controls the oil supply to the variator depending on the load conditions of the engine which is calculated by the ecu using the RPM sensor & air flow meter.

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It does this by altering the inlet camshaft position (or phase) by 25 degrees relative to the crank position, it does not and cannot alter valve lift or duration, that is decided by the camshaft profile which can't possibly change as its a solid cast (as in the above pics).

The exhaust cam position, lift and duration are fixed in all circumstances as its driven directly by the exhaust cam pulley.

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FA refers to the solenoid in the advance position,
FC refers to the soilenoid in the retard position.

Advance stage,
The sliding valve is pushed down as the ecu operates the relay which supplies current to the solenoid.
Oil is now pumped through supply line A to B, D and also L. The variator is now getting a pressurised oil supply, which causes the ram to overcome the force of its return spring and be pushed away from the camshaft pulley.
it is the straight cut splines on the centre of the variator (or the part which screws onto the cam) and the helical cut teeth on the inner surface of the shell of the variator which causes the variation in relationship of the inlet cam pulley and the shaft itself.

Retard stage,
The sliding valve (2) has now lifted because the solenoid has no current flow, this allows the slide valve to lift because of the force provided by its return spring (3) thereby opening port E

Pressure is reduced in lines D and L.
The strong spring in the variator is pushing the ram back home, this causes the inlet cam to revert back to its retard position because the oil flows back through the camshaft, D also L, A and B to the slide valve where it goes to E, the lubrication system return line.

The D&L lines both go to the same oil feed bearing journal, the L line looks like it can be done without, but that would cause the journal to only recieve lubrication when the variator is advanced, which is a bad thing

the VVT system on the hgt cannot be compared to that of honda's vtec, it works on a totally different principle.
 
Here's a decent guide if you need one,
http://home.hccnet.nl/jaap.bouma/PhaseVariator.htm

I stripped my old one down to see what was inside it,
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You can see it in its diffrent position's, it swivels as it moves,
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The problem is the nylon part in the middle (bit with teeth on) it wears and makes it all rattle, Gsr do an uprated variator which I 'think' replace's the nylon for brass. Why fiat did'nt do it in the first place is beyond me.
 
£96 I beleive, its on their website. I'll be getting one 'once' my cams turn up, would be rude not to(y)
 
Here's a decent guide if you need one,
http://home.hccnet.nl/jaap.bouma/PhaseVariator.htm

I stripped my old one down to see what was inside it,
S6000493-1.jpg

S6000495.jpg


You can see it in its diffrent position's, it swivels as it moves,
S6000496.jpg

S6000497.jpg


The problem is the nylon part in the middle (bit with teeth on) it wears and makes it all rattle, Gsr do an uprated variator which I 'think' replace's the nylon for brass. Why fiat did'nt do it in the first place is beyond me.

Dan can you please replace these pics by attachment if you don't know how to e-mail them and I'll do it for you as it's a pity to ruin an excellent thread.
 
This is a copy of a post by Craig_HGT so a big thanks to him.

Phase Variator,

60666199.jpg


The Function of the vvt unit or phase variator is to
1. Reduce emissions
2. Produce a better torque output under various operating conditions.
(i need to verify these also, i think there might be another point to add)

The variator is fitted in between the inlet camshaft and pulley, you can just about see the base of the variator in the pic below

The pic below shows the variator better from when i removed the camshaft support and pulley, you can also see the oil supply channel which is cut into the camshaft on the second bearing journal.

Operation.

The solenoid valve controls the oil supply to the variator depending on the load conditions of the engine which is calculated by the ecu using the RPM sensor & air flow meter.

small_cyl_head.jpg


small_cyl_head2.jpg


It does this by altering the inlet camshaft position (or phase) by 25 degrees relative to the crank position, it does not and cannot alter valve lift or duration, that is decided by the camshaft profile which can't possibly change as its a solid cast (as in the above pics).

The exhaust cam position, lift and duration are fixed in all circumstances as its driven directly by the exhaust cam pulley.

variator.jpg


FA refers to the solenoid in the advance position,
FC refers to the soilenoid in the retard position.

Advance stage,
The sliding valve is pushed down as the ecu operates the relay which supplies current to the solenoid.
Oil is now pumped through supply line A to B, D and also L. The variator is now getting a pressurised oil supply, which causes the ram to overcome the force of its return spring and be pushed away from the camshaft pulley.
it is the straight cut splines on the centre of the variator (or the part which screws onto the cam) and the helical cut teeth on the inner surface of the shell of the variator which causes the variation in relationship of the inlet cam pulley and the shaft itself.

Retard stage,
The sliding valve (2) has now lifted because the solenoid has no current flow, this allows the slide valve to lift because of the force provided by its return spring (3) thereby opening port E

Pressure is reduced in lines D and L.
The strong spring in the variator is pushing the ram back home, this causes the inlet cam to revert back to its retard position because the oil flows back through the camshaft, D also L, A and B to the slide valve where it goes to E, the lubrication system return line.

The D&L lines both go to the same oil feed bearing journal, the L line looks like it can be done without, but that would cause the journal to only recieve lubrication when the variator is advanced, which is a bad thing

the VVT system on the hgt cannot be compared to that of honda's vtec, it works on a totally different principle.
Doc

If you didn't get my earlier post (page froze when I tried to post it). I remarked on how well written your post was - absolutely excellent!

Having recently bought a variator, I could resist taking it apart to see how it worked... Now I need to understand how to align the splines to ensure correct valve timing, i'm also unsure as to which way around the thrust washers go! Do you have access to exploded diagrams? Can you offer any advice?

Best regards

Nathan
 
Thought you might like this quote from the book I just read, Man and Boy by Tony Parsons. He's in showroom talking to the salesman ...

"This model has the Variable Valve Control system', he said, with what seemed like genuine enthusiasm. 'The opening period of the inlet valves can be varied by altering the rotational speed of each cam lobe.'

What the f*ck was he going on about? Was it something to do with the engine?"

xS
 
ive been driving my B for the past 4mnths on a faulty variator, tried so many different oils to quiten it but nothing... My mechanic insists that the variator is okay but the problem is in the lifters so i left it hoping not to replace the variator & ending up not being the problem... I guess not much of problems you face with it except for some slight fuel consumption...
 
The information here is also suitable for the Punto HGT. My biggest issue has been getting any engine workshop manual, so have worked "blind" This at least confirmed I was doing things right. My next job is the variator removing tool.

On the GSR variator - they dont do them any more - they say Fiat have fixed their design fault. As someone said "why did they not use brass/bronze instead of nylon. The money saved was trivial yet the cost to owners has been considerable and I'm sute to Fiat in warranty claims and reputation.
 
Are you capable of performing a cambelt change?

The belt needs to be changed at the same time, whilst you're there you'd might as well check/replace the waterpump too and the tensioner and idler pulleys if needed.

If not, just book it in to a friendly independant specialist.
 
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