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Advice on tuning Abarth evo

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I recently acquired a Abarth esseesse punto evo, absolutely love it but I now want to go about increasing the speed of it, my brother in law has a Honda type r and I want to be on par or faster than that!

The car produces 180 bhp but I would like that upto the 210+ bhp mark. I aim to either get it re-mapped or a tuning box, could anyone recommend a tuning company? Also the best exhaust for both sound and performance, it sounds great already but I want to hear it while inside the car as well.

So check list of suggestions I am after:

1. Best way to map, either box or remap
2. Best exhaust system for performance and noise
3. Best induction kit for car

Open to any other suggestions on improving performance and exhaust note.
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Re: Advice on tuning Abarth evo

Hello,

If you want to be faster than a type R buy another car... The EsseEsse is already fine tuned, almost 130HP / liter is already high level.

Perhaps some tuners can achieve 200-220HP, but in the case you have to buy their entire solution to ensure results : intake, intercooler, exhaust and remap.

Be careful to not increase the torque too high, otherwise the gearbox and clutch won't last long.
In any case, an 20% increase on an already fine tuned car will result in more maintenance / less reliability.
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Re: Advice on tuning Abarth evo

I don't want a new car... well best re-map I have found is 193bhp, TMC tuning box puts it to 207 bhp and been told this all within the tolerances of the engine so think I will be going down that route, after that I want an exhaust, any advice on the best exhaust for the nicest sounding note?
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Re: Advice on tuning Abarth evo

I understand you, the APE EsseEsse is stunning But wanting more just to beat another car that costs more is not a really good reason.

Anyway, for the exhaust no advices. But you should find someone that do all (intake, exhaust and map), because reaching 200hp+ become difficult on this car. It's not as easy as changing exhaust and visit any tuner to remap.
Yeah, some margin exist, but remember the Abarth Evo is standard 163hp and the EsseEsse 180, with same parts... so remaining margin should be low.

An example, here, click on stage 2 :
http://www.br-performance.be/fr-be/r...se/?stage=3368

200HP, but with full exhaust, intake, intercooler, turbo and remap. And all this for 20 more HP.

I think near you there are some serious tuner that can do that ?
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Re: Advice on tuning Abarth evo

Exactly why I purchased the car, its rarity and prestige! Well just a TMC tuning box should get me an extra 27 bhp so think that will be the first purchase for me It seems to be a difficult car to get mapped due to the multi-air and that its a rare car.
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Yes tuning the MultiAir engine is -for the moment- difficult.
It is because it's a new way to manage air admitted in the engine, you control the intake valves - no more butterfly as I understood with MA engine.

Hope the tuning box will give you that amount of power - keep us informed if you enjoy it
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Will do! Think I have decided on the exhaust as well, either the power motive with the remote valve or the supersprint chrome finish exhaust, leaning more towards the power motive as you can turn the noise off when you want.
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Re: Advice on tuning Abarth evo

If you want to beat a Civic Type R get a more powerful car. You can spend thousands modifying yours to match it. But then he tweaks his a little and gets it to a level you will never reach. The Abarth Puntos are great but the engine is just a 1.4 and its a heavy car. So if you like the car then just enjoy it for what it is. Because at the end of the day they aren't that quick.
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Re: Advice on tuning Abarth evo

Realistically though the tuning box will bring me up to the same level. 207 bhp will mean 0-62 in about 6.8s which is .1 second of the type r, that is plenty quick for me haha. The exhaust and induction kit are really only for sound and driving pleasure, its a great car and by far the quickest I have owned, I drive an audi SQ5 as well and honestly, it doesnt feel as quick as my Abarth just because of how it feels, in my abarth your much closer to the ground and you feel every bump in the road, its a great little car and can corner fast as well. In the SQ5 you can cruise along and you don't realise you are doing 100 mph on the motorway until you look at the speedo lol.
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You cant say 207 bhp will automatically give you a 0 to 60 of 6.8 seconds. Thats just total guess work. It might be a lot less then that or it might even be faster. Only a series of timed runs at somewhere like Santa Pod with proper timing gear will tell you how quick the car is.
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So if you like the car then just enjoy it for what it is. Because at the end of the day they aren't that quick.

This is why I bought an APE, it has everything I need in a car. Low car tax group, cheap to run etc.


For added spice I added an Induction kit & dump valve & changed the alloys.


I have no interested in making my car faster as my days are over spending on cars, I'm enjoying the drive.
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Re: Advice on tuning Abarth evo

Buy a Fiesta ST - standard its the same as a Type R and with a Mountune kit on even quicker and also far batter handling.... Just a thought - not sure it will go down well though
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Re: Advice on tuning Abarth evo

Don't really like fords, they are far too common and the ST for me just doesn't look special enough, it doesn't stand out like an Abarth. Of course you are right, I have been told although my car is stated to have 180 bhp, majority of the esseesse's are usually churning out 190+ bhp. I just used maths, official times from parkers puts the normal APE at 7.6s, and the esseesse version at 7.3 for a 15 bhp diffeerence. I know it's not completly accurate but another boost of 27 bhp should theoretically bring it to about those numbers. Only way to know would to get it timed properly and I would also like to get it on a rolling road as well.
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Parkers times are usually off a little. The official recorded time is 7.4 seconds. Because the esseesse is remapped the power could be 190 but it could also be 180. Only a rolling road will give an idea of what its got. Using any sort of calculation is pointless really only proven facts will do. There is a lot of bs about what the Abarths are capable off but as of yet ive seen no proof. There is just as much bs said about beating other cars. But so many variables go into it you cant just claim victory. Some owners of Type R's dont drive their cars to the full potential because they dont rev them enough.

The Fiesta ST is a mighty car with a fantastic engine and great handling. They are quick as standard but tuned they are absolute monsters. But they are about as exciting to look at as blank A4 paper. I looked at one at the local Ford dealership before settling for the Abarth.
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I actually believe Parker's to be more accurate, the times given by car manufactures are usually very conservative to prevent the cars they produce not actually reaching there supposed 0-62 times. The fiat time is 7.5s, parkers says its 7.3s. Also nearly every review I have read mentions how the Abarth and the SS models feel faster than the figures given by fiat.

Parker's have cars actually timed by laser to determine there exact or as close to official 0-62 times so I believe there numbers to be more accurate than what manufacturers suggest. I must agree with you on how they look though, very dull and I really hate ford interiors, too many buttons and everything is just far too chunky, steering wheel and the seats especially. With regards to other cars with similar or lower power outputs that can hit 0-62 in nearly a second quicker I find hard to believe, when you consider the set up of at least the SS model with its power output, tyres and suspension set up, I really can't see how for example a DS3 with 155 bhp is faster as i believe thats supposed to be 7.3s to 62.

I have seen some pretty ridiculous figures of supposed 250+ bhp abarths which I think from a 1.4 is just ridiculous but saying that, TMC do some crazy upgrades on abarth 500s which easy 220+ bhp figures. Regardless I do believe my car with a TMC tuning box would easily break the sub 7s mark without a doubt. I suppose I might have to ask my brother in law if there is any chance I could use the rolling road in his work lol.
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