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General Abarth Evo

Blank2k2 said:
I took my prices from the websites of Vauxhall / Ford... Vauxhall didnt have any New Astra VXR's listed but i find it extremely hard to believe you can get a New Astra VXR for 18k after i tried to get offers etc on an above average New Astra for 15k and got sent packing, besides that an SRI specced up on website costs 24k, and Brand new Focus ST2 came out at 23k, i didnt check ST3 but i cant imagine it being less ;).... 2nd hand you'll get an ST3 cheaper than a used Abarth GP though!

i was checking RRP, not deal prices.

And yeah true, but were also talking about performance cars, what in your opinion meets up with a Abarth GP/Evo?... pretty empty market unless your after one of the beasts above.
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I best go and tell all the dealers that i was talking to last month over VXRs and ST3's that they are selling new ones too cheap eh ;) You wouldnt pay RRP on these cars they have been out for a while now and they are very common so they hold no premium.

Corsa VXR, Polo GTI are more comparable matches to the Abarth GP/Evo.
 
punto_matt said:
I best go and tell all the dealers that i was talking to last month over VXRs and ST3's that they are selling new ones too cheap eh ;) You wouldnt pay RRP on these cars they have been out for a while now and they are very common so they hold no premium.

Corsa VXR, Polo GTI are more comparable matches to the Abarth GP/Evo.
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Yup, i would :p no wonder they got nailed by the recession if there giving the cars way!

Polo is a heep of plastic **** though, very hard to compare that to the Evo... granted ive not driven the GTI but the one i did drive was an 09, plastic and clunky, more like a go-kart.. had a truly brilliant cup holder though.

Deffo rather have an Abarth Evo than a Polo GTI... Corsa's i just dismiss cause there chick cars (all my sisters + 1 niece had em, buggered if I ever will!)
 
Blank2k2 said:
Yup, i would :p no wonder they got nailed by the recession if there giving the cars way!

Polo is a heep of plastic **** though, very hard to compare that to the Evo... granted ive not driven the GTI but the one i did drive was an 09, plastic and clunky, more like a go-kart.. had a truly brilliant cup holder though.

Deffo rather have an Abarth Evo than a Polo GTI... Corsa's i just dismiss cause there chick cars (all my sisters + 1 niece had em, buggered if I ever will!)
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Vauxhall and Ford havent been nailed by the recession?

GTI wont be plastic **** though and it will handle.

Test drive a VXR arctic, mint cars not girly either :)
 
Blank2k2 said:
We dont, but as the Sporting is 15.5k as standard, then once pimped upto the Abarth level in extras etc (well, the one we've seen) its about 16.5-17k .... add another 3.5k for an Abarth badge, so it makes sense.

As for the price jump, hmm, would of liked the whole range to be alittle bit cheaper but it isn't a waste of money, im still more than happy with my Eleganza, it was certainly a good buy & that was 14.5k (i think).. which was my budget, if I had more id of gone happily gone higher (if sporting had 5 door option.)
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Playing a risky game with the cost of the Evo, a spec'd Sporting costs more than a similar spec Mito.
 
Hellcat said:
Playing a risky game with the cost of the Evo, a spec'd Sporting costs more than a similar spec Mito.
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Maybe, though MiTo was an option for me instead of Evo but no matter how often I looked at the pictures i just couldn't let that in my life... has bucked teeth & rosey red arse cheeks.

punto_matt said:
Vauxhall and Ford havent been nailed by the recession?

GTI wont be plastic **** though and it will handle.

Test drive a VXR arctic, mint cars not girly either :)
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GTI looks plastic too, though it has a new headunit etc so more gadgetry which adds alot of points for me.. but its still very plastic, maybe Abarth GP... but i still see Evo as a large step forward for interior, though the New Polo ive not seen interior of yet so yeah if that's had the plastic taken out it'll be competition.

VXR Arctic does look nice, I certainly wouldnt mind one of those :D gimme!
 
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I read in either autocar/autoexpress, or one of the other motoring mags that the new Abarth Evo is going to be slightly cheaper than a Mito Cloverleaf, but not by much. The Cloverleaf is about £17895 or thereabouts, so the rumour is the Abarth Evo will be about £17000. Then the SS kit will be about another 2 grand on top. (The kit will consist of mainly suspension, brakes, wheels and new bmc air filter i think, as the Abarth Evo comes with the bigger Garrett turbo fitted as standard to the Multiair engine. Not sure if it's got the bigger injectors tho?)

Ian
 
BeakerMjet said:
I read in either autocar/autoexpress, or one of the other motoring mags that the new Abarth Evo is going to be slightly cheaper than a Mito Cloverleaf, but not by much. The Cloverleaf is about £17895 or thereabouts, so the rumour is the Abarth Evo will be about £17000. Then the SS kit will be about another 2 grand on top. (The kit will consist of mainly suspension, brakes, wheels and new bmc air filter i think, as the Abarth Evo comes with the bigger Garrett turbo fitted as standard to the Multiair engine. Not sure if it's got the bigger injectors tho?)

Ian
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Hmm, would be nice if thats true... but, hard to believe that an Abarth Evo will cost the same (maybe less) as a fully loaded Sporting
 
What does have fully specced sporting have - toys wise - compared to a base/standard spec Abarth Evo? Abarth can't go silly with pricing, because putting it near £20k will put it up against a group of hot hatches that it can't win against. If you had £20k for example, which would you rather have? A standard spec Abarth evo (a great car, don't get me wrong) or a Focus ST-2, or a Golf GTi (used), or a Civic Type R, or an Astra VXR.... the list goes on. The Abarth Evo is aimed at the smaller car class, like the Renaultsport Clio, Seat Ibiza Cupra, Polo GTi, etc - and they're all priced around £18k. Abarth would have to make an Abarth Bravo in order to compete successfully against the Focus, Astra, Civic etc etc....

Just my 2p worth :)

Ian
 
BeakerMjet said:
What does have fully specced sporting have - toys wise - compared to a base/standard spec Abarth Evo? Abarth can't go silly with pricing, because putting it near £20k will put it up against a group of hot hatches that it can't win against. If you had £20k for example, which would you rather have? A standard spec Abarth evo (a great car, don't get me wrong) or a Focus ST-2, or a Golf GTi (used), or a Civic Type R, or an Astra VXR.... the list goes on. The Abarth Evo is aimed at the smaller car class, like the Renaultsport Clio, Seat Ibiza Cupra, Polo GTi, etc - and they're all priced around £18k. Abarth would have to make an Abarth Bravo in order to compete successfully against the Focus, Astra, Civic etc etc....

Just my 2p worth :)

Ian
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Thats true, but Abarth is a pretty "special" brand, its not a bog standard "Fiat" its an Abarth, like the McLaren / Cosworth etc (Yes matt, i know, i shot up about 20 segments there! but i couldnt think of anymore tuner companys!)... i dont think they've sold very many Abarth Grandes?

Also id pick a Abarth Evo over a Polo GTi anyday!
and the Civic Type R, like matt has said is utter, utter **** ... the old ones are good fun though!
I'd pick the Focus ST-2, but after i saw the tax/insurance/fuel/tyre bills id probably have to trade it in ;)
 
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Megane 225 or Astra VXR are the ones to have.

Abarth say there cars arent about volume sales so i think they said when the AGP first came out that they wouldnt do more than 1500ish a year.
 
punto_matt said:
I best go and tell all the dealers that i was talking to last month over VXRs and ST3's that they are selling new ones too cheap eh ;) You wouldnt pay RRP on these cars they have been out for a while now and they are very common so they hold no premium.

Corsa VXR, Polo GTI are more comparable matches to the Abarth GP/Evo.
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:yeahthat:

Went past a vaux dealer yesterday and there was a Astra VXR in red with the "black edition" stuff on for 18.5k
 
Why did they call the Punto Evo ???

Just am using to a mits Evo.

May be could compared the Abarth to this:

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cost around £15k.

Ming
 
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ycming said:
Why did they call the Punto Evo ???

Just am using to a mits Evo.

May be could compared the Abarth to this:

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cost around £15k.

Ming
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Punto Evo, Evolution, next step, change etc.. makes sense.

Though personally, I think "Evo" is abit of a sacred name i'm surprised Fiat had the cheek to use it.

Colt looks like a beasty, wonder what the spec etc is :eek: *googles*
 
Blank2k2 said:
Punto Evo, Evolution, next step, change etc.. makes sense.

Though personally, I think "Evo" is abit of a sacred name i'm surprised Fiat had the cheek to use it.

Colt looks like a beasty, wonder what the spec etc is :eek: *googles*
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Yeah that was my line of thinking with the name Evo ...... Same with VW with the R32.

Anyway think the colt is 1.5 turbo :D, which is why i think is a good comparison, but after reading some comments with the abarth costing 20k, may be not.

Ming
 
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