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Just about to buy a 500X but this forum is putting me off.

I was about to pull the trigger and buy a 500X from a car supermarket this weekend.
But after reading this forum Im a bit put off. Are they really that bad?
One of the reasons for buying was the tech - such as uconnect and tom tom sat nav, but it seems that they dont really work that well.
Any body give me some positives ?
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Re: Just about to buy a 500X but this forum is putting me off.

Don't be put off at all! I love mine! The uconnect isn't perfect by any means but you have to remember it's not a merc! It's not gonna be as good. I've had a couple of issues with mine powering off randomly but that's it. Could happen to any system. The Deezer app is pretty poor tbh, doesn't stream very quickly but I just Bluetooth my phone and stream that way.
The drive is great and does handle nicely. Quality of the build is very good and plenty of space in the front and back!
Take it for a test drive and you'll be pleased!
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I was about to pull the trigger and buy a 500X from a car supermarket this weekend.
But after reading this forum Im a bit put off. Are they really that bad?
One of the reasons for buying was the tech - such as uconnect and tom tom sat nav, but it seems that they dont really work that well.
Any body give me some positives ?


I agree completely with @butcha. I don't pretend I haven't had problems with mine but it probably qualifies as the best car I've ever owned (previously that was a 2 litre Focus). I had a 24 hour Test Drive before I bought mine, if that facility is still available take it, and put a lot of miles on it in 24 hours. There's nothing on the market at the moment that I would rather have, but I guess that depends which model you're considering.
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Re: Just about to buy a 500X but this forum is putting me off.

I don't know why here is putting you off. There's little to no outright negative stuff on these forums. Niggles, yes. Views about small systems like UConnect (which is completely rubbish, admittedly), yes. This happens with cars from Mercedes, to Bentley, to Kia. But there definitely is not a plethora of people saying don't buy one.

You should look in at the Ford Owners Club occasionally. You'd never look at a blue oval in the same way again! And rightfully so. Awful company selling awful cars that drive nicely but last as long as a chocolate bar in a desert.
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The other thing to bear in mind is that when things have gone wrong the Fiat dealerships have generally been excellent at sorting them out
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I've had my 2015 Multiair Lounge for about 6 months now, and have got to really like it. I admit I am not a power user of the tech - mine just has the non-DAB 5 inch system with Nav. The Tom Tom works fine, I can make and receive phone calls and I play music from a usb stick. I've never tried to use any "live" features. The screen is a bit small by modern standards, but it does the job.
Nothing has fallen off or gone wrong. If I could tweak anything, I would like a slightly softer, quieter ride, but that's probably largely due to the 45 section tyres fitted to my model. The "Auto" engine mode could be a bit sharper, "Sport" mode less so, but I've got used to it.
Best to try one for a decent test drive, I certainly wouldn't say don't buy one. For me, the best alternative would be a Suzuki Vitara, which has a bit more space, but the Fiat's interior is much classier.
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Quote Originally Posted by Garree001 View Post
I don't know why here is putting you off. There's little to no outright negative stuff on these forums. Niggles, yes. Views about small systems like UConnect (which is completely rubbish, admittedly), yes. This happens with cars from Mercedes, to Bentley, to Kia. But there definitely is not a plethora of people saying don't buy one.

You should look in at the Ford Owners Club occasionally. You'd never look at a blue oval in the same way again! And rightfully so. Awful company selling awful cars that drive nicely but last as long as a chocolate bar in a desert.
Totally agree with this.
Go to the BMW forum and its the same - only problems.
I think people only post when something is wrong.
You don't often get posts saying everything is good.

There were issues with the 500X but mainly around the tech. Don't expect the UConnect to be up to much, its just a glorified media player.
But then the BMW one was not much better, just has better graphics and improved usability.
Does mostly the same thing though.

I'd drive one and make up your won mind.

Remember to drive it on a mixture of roads - include bumpy surfaces and around town in stop/start traffic.
And not just for 5 minutes. Remember you will be living with it.
Just like any car really.
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Cheers Guys,
Id almost been put off. I'm test driving a 16 plate Cross Plus 1.6 Diesel with 18" wheels :-)
What sort of MPG should I be expecting? I mainly drive fairly fast A and B roads on my 30 mile commute each day.
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Hard to say as there's not a lot of evidence out there yet, for example - http://www.fuelly.com/car/fiat/500x
Only one of those is listed as a diesel, and gets about 45 UK MPG but that seems low to me so I suspect it's mostly city driven. Whereas some of the US petrol models are showing 52+ UK MPG, I'd expect 50+ if you're not doing too much stop/start stuff.
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Cheers Guys,

Id almost been put off. I'm test driving a 16 plate Cross Plus 1.6 Diesel with 18" wheels :-)

What sort of MPG should I be expecting? I mainly drive fairly fast A and B roads on my 30 mile commute each day.


I have the 2.0 Diesel Auto Cross Plus and I would be very disappointed to see consumption of greater than 47mpg, except in traffic in town. Most of my motoring is A roads and Motorways and I can reliably return 48-52 mpg if that helps at all
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Re: Just about to buy a 500X but this forum is putting me off.

I have a 2ltr Diesel Cross, had it for 3 months now, love my car...

Go and buy one, you won't regret it..

I took all the current crop of SUV's that were in my price range out for a Test Drive, none of them compared to the responsiveness of the 500X or the comfort.. yes the ride is a bit hard and the engine a bit noisy, but for me that all adds to the appeal..

Just if you can switch off the Speed Camera warning Beep's after the first few hundred times for the same camera it gets very annoying...
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Re: Just about to buy a 500X but this forum is putting me off.

Try driving the 1.4 petrol. Very thirsty. I haven't seen more than 25mpg around town. Even my old Astra 2.2 gave me 30mpg +/-2mpg in town.

On the motorway you get early to mid 40s from it. Can probably work that up to high 40s if you're gentle.
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Try driving the 1.4 petrol. Very thirsty. I haven't seen more than 25mpg around town. Even my old Astra 2.2 gave me 30mpg +/-2mpg in town.

On the motorway you get early to mid 40s from it. Can probably work that up to high 40s if you're gentle.
Ouch. I was put off the petrol version because of the reported high consumption - thats even worse than I thought.
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I have the 1.6 petrol, and get around 35-40mpg on average. Annually mileage is about 6k so there was no point paying loads extra for the diesel when I don't do enough miles to benefit. Not a bad engine, needs to be high in the rev range to really get much from it. Surprised it's got better mpg than the 1.4 though!
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Ouch. I was put off the petrol version because of the reported high consumption - thats even worse than I thought.
I think we have to stand back and think fact, talk fact, understand fact when it comes to MPG and reports of "I drove from Edinburgh to Brighton on x gallons of fuel.

ALL manufacturers play games with MPG etc. We know (FACT) that mpg figures for any given car are based on laboratory test conditions. These tests DO NOT take into account wind resistance, road variable surface materials, etc. etc. The manufacturer offers sample productions car for testing. The test criteria is known so manufacturers can deliver a production representative vehicle "MATCHED" to delivering best can do performance on the "known/standard test bed.

Put the tested car on a real road, with real wind resistance, real surface profiles, and "real life motoring" and you can toss the "official" figures into the bin.

Please note! I'm not suggesting people are telling fibs about their fuel economy. The poorer the performance the MORE I believe it.

Given a petrol engine then a 1.4 Turbo is roughly equivalent to a 1.8L/2.0L naturally aspirated petrol engine. Both deliver (when in good running order) around 30MPG over the lifetime driving cycle.

For every car I've owned since 1974 I've kept a detailed "lifetime" log of fuel put in, s put in, Litres put in and all mileages.

Needless to say the ACTUAL figures fall far short of what was officially documented.

Last point. If you want to have a fun, lively, get up and go "drive" then MPG is a mute point. You have to balance dead duck feel against she/he does what I ask. The "ASK" is your driving style and pleasure.

IMHO the 500X is around the expected "level" for a car/engine/etc of this type.

I would prefer to pay some extra s per year and have driving fun/pleasure than thoroughly hating a 17K+ purchase based on MPG disappointment.

Summary. Lifetime 1.4 Turbo, 1.8/2.0L petrol engines are going to weigh in at around 30 to 35 MPG. Also note that modern engine management systems keep the ideal fuel burn (etc) in the ideal Lambda ratio as best as they can.

IMHO the 500X is no worse or no better than the other make options out there. These manufacturers compete hard to be as good as they can. What one has to do is decide are your a "MPG", "Driveability", "Load carrying", "size", "shape", etc. driver.

Only the individual buyer can dictate/choose the parameters.
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