General Where to keep keyless fob - my plan.........

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General Where to keep keyless fob - my plan.........

Aye, worrying to say the least. Modern day technology for you. Thieves in this line tend to be one step ahead. Seen a few programs on telly regarding this, bit of an eye opener to say the least. Bit off topic & just boys & their toys & all that. It gives me great pleasure to jump into my Coupe & key in, then press the start button.......:)

Yes I know..........:D
 
Nothing has changed.

Its always been the same.

If somebody wants your car and has learned his craft, he can take your car.

It was that way in the old days and it is still that way.
 
I'm old skool & there's one thing you can do with any car that can make it practically impossible to steal. Very easy on the older cars. I'm not going to tell you, so will have to guess.........:p
 
I remember one device years ago ( not sure if still made ) which seemed to be high up in the unbeatable ratings..........

It was a steel "door" that could be fitted to the floor in front of the drivers seat. It was hinged so that when not in use, it was folded back flat towards the floor and sat between the drivers heels and the seat.

To activate, you swung it forward and it locked, completely blocking the pedals. The position of the lock made it virtually impossible to use a slide hammer or "polish key" on it.
 
Indeed - plenty of anti theft options

When I posted about relay hacking it was not to side track / side thread the original post's quest for a nice key fob case but I forgot to add that you can get key cases, like credit card wallets that shield the key.

So I would be looking for a really nice / custom sleeve / holster that ideally totally killed the key signal or significantly attenuated it so one had to be within inches of the car. This would in 99%+ probability stop the relay hack.

If I park our Strada 130TC anywhere unattended then not only is it electrically immobilised but it also gets the old fashioned hand brake lock, pedal lock and steering wheel lock treatment. Still no guarantee it can't be stolen as a simple "lift and separate from tarmac" would do the trick.

I think the import thing we are talking about is common sense vs practicality vs usability/convenience vs system design integrity.

For me reducing the susceptibility to the relay hack is a good idea. For the car once opened and started to be driven with no key present is absolutely a crass and fundamental design flaw which if nothing else now requires (if you are paranoid) the application of 3rd party substantial mechanical devices which clutter up the interior of the car and are loose "weapons of death" in an accident.

o Enter car
o Remove device(s)
o Exit car
o Carry devices to boot
o Open boot
o Dump devices in boot
o Close boot
o Enter car
o Drive off

It is called progress :)

Oh and don't forget the bunch of additional keys to carry.
 
I've just remembered that cars were recently being stolen from service stations on the M4 which is of particular worry to me as that's the one I use most regularly. Sod diving to Somerset on the A4!

The police publicised it very heavily. Not sure whether any arrests were made. But this kind of attack wouldn't be stopped by arrests. Where there's one guy doing it, there are 50 more in the gang ready to replace him.

Anyway. The M4 thefts were using a signal that blocked the key's signal. This then tricked drivers into believing their car was locked and it was then just a simple 60 second job to hack the diagnostic port and drive away. Even if the driver cottoned on, all they'd have reason to believe is that the battery in the key fob was running out.

This is all going back to the Microsoft XP days where there were new vulnerabilities found and exploited every day!
 
Post code lottery plays a big part (obviously) in this sort of thing. Up here there really is no hiding place & things are found out/sorted if something happens quickly. I'm in a wee village 8 miles north of Inverness & I still get the odd knock on the door by a kid handing me my car keys that I've dropped or left in the car. Obviously things have changed over the years, but all in all life's sweet in my neck of the woods compared to inner cities down south.
 
I'd love to live somewhere that remote. But work is hard to come by in my field!

London is an awful, disgusting place on the whole. It's basically a collection of run down or dirty ghettos with a different community in each now. No real cohesion at all. And dare I say that it's one or two of these communities in particular that are responsible for a majority of technological crime?

Trying to be delicate and acceptable here! :)
 
Ah Garree, I genuinely feel for you. I've traveled all over the UK & London, although it does have things going for it, I found the worst form of loneliness being in a crowded room so to speak. Actually the people who took me on & actually were interested & bemused by a mad Scotsman were the blacks. However that's way off topic.

I'm going on for the second time with fellow Coupsters the NC500, much brawness...:D The Scottish West coast is particularly a drivers dream, both in keeping your wits about you & the scenery is to die for, again a different story & way off topic. This is for sure should be on every petrolheads bucket list.....(y)

Erm, apologies for the bad dialog, wife is away & I'm at the homemade curry & wine & other beverages..
 
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I'd love to live somewhere that remote. But work is hard to come by in my field!



London is an awful, disgusting place on the whole. It's basically a collection of run down or dirty ghettos with a different community in each now. No real cohesion at all. And dare I say that it's one or two of these communities in particular that are responsible for a majority of technological crime?



Trying to be delicate and acceptable here! :)



As a Londoner who "emigrated" years ago I could not possibly disagree with you. I will never live there again
 
... Unless you wear a different belt one day. I have 2 or 3 that I switch between!

Never been a problem transferring my penknife pouch from one belt to another so I doubt a 2nd pouch will present any issues.
 
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