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Hi just joined the forum :)

I spotted this post after experiencing the same problem.

We bought a 500L Trekking in December, we are in the UK. We use the vehicle for average miles (2500 since December). Last week we left it at home as we went on a motorcycle tour. Came back and the battery was flat as a pancake.

The RAC guy came out and tested the battery. It's healthy, in other words it does charge and holds a charge but he found there's a constant 2amp drain which, over the course of a week, would cause it to go flat.

We tested all the usual, obvious things like the interior lights, even the boot light to see if it stays lit when the boot is closed. It works as it should. The RAC guy advised us to run the engine for a minimum of 45 mins to re-charge it and we did that. He also advised us to call the dealer so they can investigate what may be causing the drain.

We called the dealer today (Ancaster in Welling) and the service desk bod first told us we were probably not using the vehicle enough. (2500 miles in six months is not low miles). He then asked if we just use it for short trips (well, if you consider trips to the Yorkshire Dales and West Country to be short then I guess so :D) He then advised us that if it's the battery then we will have to pay for a replacement.

It annoyed me that the line of questioning was in a manner seemingly pointing the finger at how we were using the vehicle or implying we may be at fault in some way.

We're not mechanical numpties, we have owned many cars and motorcycles over the years and I certainly was not born yesterday.

The fact of the matter is that a new battery fitted to a new car should not go to pieces after six months. From reading other posts this is evidently a common issue and I will not be taking any flannel from the dealer.

Like everything else nowadays you have to constantly argue with organisations to get anything approaching common sense from them so I am ready for a battle next week when the car goes in...I'll post an update next week so you can all know how we got on. Cheers to all, Libby and Joe (y)
 
Hi just joined the forum :)

I spotted this post after experiencing the same problem.

We bought a 500L Trekking in December, we are in the UK. We use the vehicle for average miles (2500 since December). Last week we left it at home as we went on a motorcycle tour. Came back and the battery was flat as a pancake.

The RAC guy came out and tested the battery. It's healthy, in other words it does charge and holds a charge but he found there's a constant 2amp drain which, over the course of a week, would cause it to go flat.

We tested all the usual, obvious things like the interior lights, even the boot light to see if it stays lit when the boot is closed. It works as it should. The RAC guy advised us to run the engine for a minimum of 45 mins to re-charge it and we did that. He also advised us to call the dealer so they can investigate what may be causing the drain.

We called the dealer today (Ancaster in Welling) and the service desk bod first told us we were probably not using the vehicle enough. (2500 miles in six months is not low miles). He then asked if we just use it for short trips (well, if you consider trips to the Yorkshire Dales and West Country to be short then I guess so :D) He then advised us that if it's the battery then we will have to pay for a replacement.

It annoyed me that the line of questioning was in a manner seemingly pointing the finger at how we were using the vehicle or implying we may be at fault in some way.

We're not mechanical numpties, we have owned many cars and motorcycles over the years and I certainly was not born yesterday.

The fact of the matter is that a new battery fitted to a new car should not go to pieces after six months. From reading other posts this is evidently a common issue and I will not be taking any flannel from the dealer.

Like everything else nowadays you have to constantly argue with organisations to get anything approaching common sense from them so I am ready for a battle next week when the car goes in...I'll post an update next week so you can all know how we got on. Cheers to all, Libby and Joe (y)

Hi, and welcome, :)

hope you enjoyed the tour (y) - far better than the runaround:rolleyes:

the 500L owners in the US reported a LOT of this..,
a bad batch of batteries / poor spec. seemed to get the blame,:shrug:

:idea:I was talking to a colleague today about a problem FORD had with the dashboard gubbins not powering down when the key was removed / car locked - leading to flat batteries(n)

easiest is to spend an hour with a test meter seeing what uses the power when all is "OFF" - there is a GUIDE on here omewhere..I'll attempt to link to it,

wrong car - but all good ideas / info.https://www.fiatforum.com/punto-ii/437844-battery-charge-being-drained-i-cant-figure-out-why.html
Charlie - Oxford
 
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Cheers Charlie, yeah the bike tour to northern Scotland was superb. Predictibly the dealer is giving us a load of cobblers about short journeys and even questioned if the radio is on when we drive around hahaha

Thanks for that link, superb post, I'm going to get the multi-meter to it as soon as it gets back from Ancaster!
 
I'm one of those US guys with a 2012 500 Pop. I drove to the market, came out of the store and the car would not start.

Looking around the internet and there were many posts on bad batteries in the 2012 model year here in US.

Took the car into the dealership and they replaced the battery - no charge.
 
I have my 2012 500 Lounge in for maintenance today at the dealership. I'm having them check the battery just is case it shows it is going bad. So far the Lounge hasn't shown any issues with the battery, but since I got the Lounge and Pop at the sametime, I want to be reassured there isn't any battery issue. If so, I'll have them replace it now.
 
Our car was about 3.5 years old before we had the flat battery problem. RAC came out and took us to the dealership, having diagnosed it as alternator problems.
The dealer said it was the battery and put a new one in.
Three weeks later it had gone again.
Took it to a local car repair place. They reckon that it is the boot light. If the 'boot open' button on the key fob is accidentally pressed, when the car is locked the boot remains open with no 'squawk' like you would get if the door was left open.
It is always worth checking that the boot is locked as it is easy to press that button by mistake.
We also had a loose boot latch which exacerbated the problem.
 
Re: Dead battery

Hello Everyone. Wife's 2012 twinair recently suffered a flat battery after a few days sat on the drive. After re-charging I've proved that the battery is fine. I went looking for the drain and found 0.55A going via Fuse 01 "Body Control" with everything turned off and the car locked. That is obviously too high a current so I feel I am "getting warmer". Could anyone please help with answers to the following:


* Is anything else using Fuse 01 or is it just the BCM?
* What residual current would I expect to see going to the BCM when the car is OFF?
* Could an external event like a bush falling across the back of the car have any connection at all with a problem like this?


In the short-term my fix to avoid a flat battery every 2 days pull this 60A fuse out. Slight PITA though because it resets the date and time.


Thanks in advance for any useful tips.
 
Hi.. not a proper solution...
But look on ebay for
'Battery isolator'...
For around a tenner you will find a brass fitting with a screw that basicaly breaks the citcuit from the battery post terminal... some have a fine wire bridging link.. so extreme low current for ' memory backup'is restored / maintained


Charlie
 
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