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Remapping a 1.2 Cat6 convertible

Just wanted to report that I have just had my local specialist - ProAlfa - in Watford remap our 1.2 63plate Cat6 convertible and I have to say it has become a different car!
Bought it last summer with 7500 miles on the clock to tour Spain and Portugal for a month and I must say it did struggle up the ramps from underground garages and found one hill impossible.
Generally it was ok to drive, but a little sluggish. Now it feels like the elephant that was strapped to the back of it, has been removed.... amazing difference!
They are just completing an oil/filter/coolant/thermostat housing change as I write this....
Very happy!
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Re: Remapping a 1.2 Cat6 convertible

I recently bought a 500C, albeit 2011 model, for my missus. I love the car and my missus and I fight over it, but it really feels quite gutless, especially up hills (I live in a hilly area).

What's a remap cost and what are the downsides?
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The Euro 6 emissions standard on the 1.2 really makes the car gutless. Although this should not effect a 2011 model. There was one very steep hill on holiday that this car would not drive up and underground garages / carparks in Spain were a little problematic on the exit ramps lol. After the remap, this baby is like a different car.. downsides .... hmmmm... it has way more low down torque, is much faster away at roundabouts, no longer hesitant, drives up hilly dual carriageways without the need to change down to 3rd and the MPG has improved to an average of 47mpg from 44mpg...
It was so worth the 250 I paid them.
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Re: Remapping a 1.2 Cat6 convertible

I'm assuming it's still emissions compliant at mot time?
And if a aftermarket set up can successfully remap it why doesn't Fiat have a better recall to the same standard?
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I'm assuming it's still emissions compliant at mot time?
And if a aftermarket set up can successfully remap it why doesn't Fiat have a better recall to the same standard?
Fiat wants their cars to be as universal as possible, including coping with high altitude driving on the crappy low octane fuel that is available in some countries.
When remapping you could choose to forsee only more realistic situations, allowing better overall performance.

This is obvious when looking at the criteria more extreme tuners set.
F.e. some tuners push the 1.4 T-Jet engine far beyond 250hp, but rely heavily on safety mechanisms to drastically downtune performance at high altitudes or when running lower than optimum octane fuel.

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Re: Remapping a 1.2 Cat6 convertible

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I'm assuming it's still emissions compliant at mot time?
And if a aftermarket set up can successfully remap it why doesn't Fiat have a better recall to the same standard?
I think it's likely it would still pass a UK MOT emissions test. I doubt very much it would meet the full Euro6 homologation requirements.

Car manufacturers have to be extremely careful to ensure that any official remap introduced as part of a recall continues to meet the emissions standards to which the car was originally homologated; with the VW scandal fresh in everyone's memory, I doubt Fiat (or any other manufacturer) would take any chances in this regard.

Remapping the car to improve its performance and economy is easy; remapping it whilst still maintaining Euro6 emissions compliance is not.
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Re: Remapping a 1.2 Cat6 convertible

did you get a map print out of hp gain torqe gain numbers,i would really like to do this myself but would be unsure if id pass my mot? if its worth it and still with in these then everyone should get it done.
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It's a totally different car to the gutless thing before. Granted a 1.2 is never going to set the world alight. It's now a very rev happy machine, that sprints from roundabouts and will cruise at 85mph without slowing down to 50 on inclines lol. I drove it to Spain at the end of January and returned a couple of weeks ago for some maintenance and an MOT.
I use Pro Alfa in Watford who have been amazing.
No issues with the MOT. Just had rear shocks,front pads, discs, cambelt, water pump (4 years 23000miles) and 4 new tyres to keep everything tip top. Car looks and drives like new
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I didn't get a print out no.. I didn't ask for one... might be keen for this on the twinair I have... but this was more about making the 1.2 a decent usable car that would drive up hills lol
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Re: Remapping a 1.2 Cat6 convertible

Our 1.2 is a week short of 4yrs old so very similar age (and mileage) to yours and I always thought it was Euro5 not 6. It was a factory order built March 2013 if anybody can confirm?
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Mine is a September 2013 model... I assume it was the Euro6 model...
It certainly was sluggish, with issues getting up steep hills/ramps.
Is yours the same? A remap turned it into a different car!
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Is yours the same? A remap turned it into a different car!
No issues at all, mine might be EU5 and yours EU6. Glad you're happy with the improvement
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Re: Remapping a 1.2 Cat6 convertible

Has anyone used quantum tunning to remap their fiats?
They have graphs on their website with before/after, interesting results.
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Quote Originally Posted by p6baseunit View Post
Just wanted to report that I have just had my local specialist - ProAlfa - in Watford remap our 1.2 63plate Cat6 convertible and I have to say it has become a different car!

Bought it last summer with 7500 miles on the clock to tour Spain and Portugal for a month and I must say it did struggle up the ramps from underground garages and found one hill impossible.

Generally it was ok to drive, but a little sluggish. Now it feels like the elephant that was strapped to the back of it, has been removed.... amazing difference!

They are just completing an oil/filter/coolant/thermostat housing change as I write this....

Very happy!


Sounds good but I was wondering how much did your car insurance went up?
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Why would you tell the insurance company? This a 1.2 after all, we weren't taking about adding 40bhp to an Abarth
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