A couple of niggles with my new TwinAir. 2012 61 plate Lounge. When you start it, there is a knocking noise as it starts which you can actually feel through the floorpan/pedals, not quite sure where, but you can definately feel it in your feet. It's just a quick knock, and the car starts fine and runs fine. There may be just a slight knocking when driving. I'm thinking maybe the exhaust? I will be taking it to a local exhaust centre to get them to check, but wondered if anyone else has experienced this on a TA?

Also, there is not massive amount of travel in the clutch pedal and it feels a bit spongy for want of a better description and when you take your foot off the clutch there is a really annoying squeak Not sure if its coming from where the pedal itself meets the shaft, or whether from the mechanism further up. I squirted some WD40 upwards towards the mechanism of the pedal but it's made no difference. Anyone else experienced this?

Knocking on starting & squeaky clutch pedal

Easy with the WD, it'll eat any plastics or rubber up there, exhaust seems likely for the knock

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Mercky said:

Easy with the WD, it'll eat any plastics or rubber up there, exhaust seems likely for the knock

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What do people recommend instead of WD?

WD is ok if it's carefully directed to where needed ensuring to keep clear of rubber or plastics, it will dry out though so for long term lubrication I suppose a light grease would be your man

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typecastboy said:

What do people recommend instead of WD?

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You'd have to read the spec sheet for recommendations on what you spray it on, but I use this sort of stuff on jobs instead of WD:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DP-60-Whi...027913?hash=item4197957209:g:XEkAAOSw3xJVdWym

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frupi said:

You'd have to read the spec sheet for recommendations on what you spray it on, but I use this sort of stuff on jobs instead of WD:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DP-60-White-LITHIUM-GREASE-Maintenance-Spray-Synthetic-Lubricant-200ml-/281716027913?hash=item4197957209:g:XEkAAOSw3xJVdWym

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Thanks, I've bought a can.

Now just to try to fix the noise!

Open the door without the engine running now press the pedal,does the squeek come from under the car? Ours does think it's the release bearing on the clutch leaves doesn't affect its use just slightly annoying

Yes, my TA clutch squeaks too. It's not very loud, indeed I can only hear it without the radio on. It sounds like it comes from the pedal, but noises are notoriously difficult to trace. If it gets louder I'll try harder, otherwise treat it as a "characteristic"!

If the storm subsides tomorrow I'll try to trace it. Want to change the he spark plugs too tomorrow but I think we're in for some pretty rough weather

It is most likely to the the clutch fork bushes that have little or no grease. It seems they come like that from the factory now. I've seen many new panda's and 500's like that. The only cure is to take the gearbox out and re-grease the bushes with a paste that will no wash away, withstand heat and lubricate for years to come. A suitable grease would be Loctite 8012 with a very high percentage of MoS2.

AAB1992 said:

It is most likely to the the clutch fork bushes that have little or no grease. It seems they come like that from the factory now. I've seen many new panda's and 500's like that. The only cure is to take the gearbox out and re-grease the bushes with a paste that will no wash away, withstand heat and lubricate for years to come. A suitable grease would be Loctite 8012 with a very high percentage of MoS2.

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Blimey that sounds like a job and a half

typecastboy said:

Blimey that sounds like a job and a half

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The easiest way to determine if it is the fork, is to have an assistant look under the bonnet and near where the gearbox joins the engine, listen for creaking squeaking. You may even be able to see the fork arm and the slave cylinder. If the noise originates from there you have your answer and unfortunately it is a rather big job, just for some grease!

https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/431715-squeeeeeaky-clutch-pedal.html

Have a look at post 13.

AAB1992 said:

https://www.fiatforum.com/panda-iii/431715-squeeeeeaky-clutch-pedal.html

Have a look at post 13.

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Cheers for the link and the video is interesting, however I don't think it's coming from under the bonnet, it's almost definately in the pedal assembly somewhere (I hope). I've ordered some silicone spray so will wait for that to come and give it a try.

I'll try to record it beforehand and post it here too.

Oh yes, and I agree JRKitching is definately beautiful

Just got back from my local Tyre Pro place and they have had the car up on ramps. It's not the exhaust or heat shield, it's the dog bone rear engine stabiliser bay which for a twin air is half the price of the 1.2 at £24.95 including VAT from Fiat so I've ordered one.

As for the squeak, I filmed it and have link to it here. Strangely, it doesn't do it when the car is not in gear and it's only when you take your foot off, not when you put your foot on.

Reverse or forward makes no difference. Have a listen on the video. Any ideas anyone?

[ame]https://youtu.be/WMMfF26ao5k[/ame]

typecastboy said:

Just got back from my local Tyre Pro place and they have had the car up on ramps. It's not the exhaust or heat shield, it's the dog bone rear engine stabiliser bay which for a twin air is half the price of the 1.2 at £24.95 including VAT from Fiat so I've ordered one.

As for the squeak, I filmed it and have link to it here. Strangely, it doesn't do it when the car is not in gear and it's only when you take your foot off, not when you put your foot on.

Reverse or forward makes no difference. Have a listen on the video. Any ideas anyone?

https://youtu.be/WMMfF26ao5k

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Hmm i cannot hear anything in the video?

Have you got your sound turned up? It's very loud!

typecastboy said:

Have you got your sound turned up? It's very loud!

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It does indeed sound like the pedal assembly, how strange. I've never heard that one before!

Just waiting for my lubricant to arrive in the post so I can give it a squirt. Funny how only when in gear though!