Unfortunately it's possible to reset the error codes/warnings, as you found when the transmission "specialists" did the same to your car once it started having problems. That stops the errors appearing but it doesn't actually solve the problems, and anytime from days to weeks down the track the problem will appear again.
We probably will never know whether this is what was done in your instance, but sadly it's very common for folks to clear error codes and then quickly flog it off to the next unsuspecting buyer. This is why I would never buy a second hand Dualogic car
Good luck, I hope you can get the problem fixed permanently eventually!
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Hi all,
I have the car back (after 2+ months)...For now (while I monitor and test it).
The transmission shop in Nelson got in-touch with a Euro specialist in Auckland and have been getting them to run tests and diagnostics etc (as they are familiar with Fiats and had far more superior knowledge with Euros than the Nelson workshop).
Anyway, thanks to technology, the specialist in Auckland was able to monitor the car wirelessly while the transmission workshop employees (in Nelson) drove it and tested it (basically involves putting yah foot down to get it to downshift between the gears to try and initiate it shifting into neutral).
The Nelson transmission shop and the Auckland specialist ended up testing it for about a week or so, every morning (as the issue was the most prominent when it was cold). Essentially every morning, they were able to simulate it shifting into neutral going from 5th to 4th.
Through Dualogic calibrations in-between testing (I believe according to Alex, called EOL calibration? Possibly other tweaks involved too) they managed to stop the issue from 5th to 4th, only for it to move to 4th to 3rd! Testing and calibration continued, where it now consistently shifted into neutral from 4th to 3rd!
The specialist in Auckland then made some adjustments and "fixes" to the neutral solenoid. As a result, the shifting into neutral issue went away altogether (again, they tested it every morning and it stopped shifting into neutral...Consistent testing).
The result? Well, I now have the car back, and they have instructed me to continue monitoring it, attempting to simulate the issue etc, and report back if it shifts into neutral again...Then it would go back to the tranmission shop for a "robotics" or "robot" replacement?
I was a little hesitant (and still am) that the issue could be resolved by a software tweak/calibration. However at the same time, when it was going into neutral, every gear shift prior or after it going into neutral was normal and as it should be (so that would possibly mean the issue was more likely non-mechanical i.e. software related?).
Confirmation of the following for those that are interested:
- Fluid level is fine (confirmed)
- Pressure is fine and consistent (confirmed, they have been monitoring it)
- Clutch doesn't seem to be dragging and works as it should so far
- Seems to be changing gears and driving smoothly (for a Dualogic...lol)
- It generally only shifted into neutral in auto-mode (can't remember if I had already mentioned it - Manual mode is generally driver down-shifted I guess, so no issues there)
Let me know what you think Dualogic gurus?
Will keep you all posted.
Cheers,
Barney
jrkitching,
alexGS