General TA 105 vs 85 on the autostrada

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General TA 105 vs 85 on the autostrada

Pure misery?
Grief! That's a bit strong! :eek:

I think ours is pure fun at any speed. :)
I always have a smile on my face when I'm driving ours. :)

Drag coefficient?
I couldn't care one way or another. I get 50odd mpg and the car is zero VED rated too. What's not to like or to be miserable about?

Fun all the way with a 500TA.
Mick.
that means you don't drive fast enough. at 80 mph which feels much more comfortable in many other cars, i really get annoyed with the fiat.

of course at slow speed where aerodynamics don't matter things are much better
 
You do know that 80mph is illegal in UK?

Not sure, but it's illegal in most countries in the world.



:):)


Sorry 79. They don't prosecute you at up to 79 no? So in UK I just do 80 the whole time on the motorway when road traffic allows as I know that the indicated speed on the speedo is always a bit higher than actual speed
 
anything above 50 mph is pure misery in a Fiat 500
at 80 mph which feels much more comfortable in many other cars, i really get annoyed with the fiat.
Why drive 80 mph if you find anything above 50 mph pure misery? Is that some kind of masochism?

But seriously, what causes the misery and the annoyance?
 
Why drive 80 mph if you find anything above 50 mph pure misery? Is that some kind of masochism?

But seriously, what causes the misery and the annoyance?


I have no choice i am stuck with this car for now :)

The fact that i feel the air resisting me so much! And God help us at 80 mph on hills i see my fuel economy go to like 20 mpg!!! On a fiat 500 20 mpg! :'(
 
Bad mpg on uphill roads are normal, but any uphill road will eventually be followed by a downhill road (unless you are on your way to the Almighty) and then you will see much better mpg than on a flat road.
 
Bad mpg on uphill roads are normal, but any uphill road will eventually be followed by a downhill road (unless you are on your way to the Almighty) and then you will see much better mpg than on a flat road.

Lol. I had a vision of 1.2 struggling on the way to St.Peter- parping and hiccuping all the way up! Thanks for that image...:D
 
The TA engines don't sound so revvy because, being a twin cylinder, there is only one firing per revolution. A 4-cylinder engine fires twice per rev. This caught me out a few times when I first got mine, and brushed the rev limiter a couple of times in second and third gear. I certainly wouldn't agree that it"s "pure misery" above 50mph. Sure, it's not as refined as a bigger car, but no worse than (usually larger) superminis I've driven.
 
The TA engines don't sound so revvy because, being a twin cylinder, there is only one firing per revolution. A 4-cylinder engine fires twice per rev. This caught me out a few times when I first got mine, and brushed the rev limiter a couple of times in second and third gear. I certainly wouldn't agree that it"s "pure misery" above 50mph. Sure, it's not as refined as a bigger car, but no worse than (usually larger) superminis I've driven.
haha yes that rev limiter on the TA is really miserable as well = ) you reach max power at 6,000 then the engine literally dies on you. at least with the 1.4 you reach max power at 6,000 then until 7,000 you feel the power slowly slowly going away then at 7,250 you hit the fuel cutoff! it gives you notice, the TA just kills you straight up haha.
 
The TA engines don't sound so revvy because, being a twin cylinder, there is only one firing per revolution. A 4-cylinder engine fires twice per rev. This caught me out a few times when I first got mine, and brushed the rev limiter a couple of times in second and third gear. I certainly wouldn't agree that it"s "pure misery" above 50mph. Sure, it's not as refined as a bigger car, but no worse than (usually larger) superminis I've driven.
i guess i am being spoilt now but if you spend 13,000 GBP on a car you would expect more refinement. this goes with what many people say, if you compare the fiat to a 9,000 GBP car its excellent but for 13,000 GBP for a decent one you'd expect more.

and i must say, new cars seem more refined than old cars, and the fiat 500 2007 is just getting really out of date.
 
haha yes that rev limiter on the TA is really miserable as well = ) you reach max power at 6,000 then the engine literally dies on you.
As far as I know maximum power is at 5500 rpm. At 6000 rpm the engine lets you know by "dying" that it's time to awake and shift gear.

P.S. I have the impression that there are no days in your life without FIAT 500 bashing...
 
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As far as I know maximum power is at 5500 rpm. At 6000 rpm the engine lets you know by "dying" that it's time to awake and shift gear.

P.S. I have the impression that there are no days in your life without FIAT 500 bashing...


Yes I must admit my dualogic experiences have scarred me from fiat for life :)

Anyway this forum needs a fiat 500 basher to reveal the dark side !
 
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The TA engines don't sound so revvy because, being a twin cylinder, there is only one firing per revolution. A 4-cylinder engine fires twice per rev. This caught me out a few times when I first got mine, and brushed the rev limiter a couple of times in second and third gear. I certainly wouldn't agree that it"s "pure misery" above 50mph. Sure, it's not as refined as a bigger car, but no worse than (usually larger) superminis I've driven.


Thanks Trev. That explains what I was trying to say earlier. It is just very different. Without driving a TA I find it hard how anyone can have an opinion. You just have to drive one to "get it". It is quite unexpected which is why people buy them.


500C TA 105
 
This caught me out a few times when I first got mine, and brushed the rev limiter a couple of times in second and third gear.

I test drove a panda cross (6 speed, 90hp) a few months ago and hit the rev limiter a couple of times too. Its a combination of an engine that spins up quickly and the strange engine note. But what a bundle of fun the TA is to drive.
 
haha yes that rev limiter on the TA is really miserable as well = ) you reach max power at 6,000 then the engine literally dies on you. at least with the 1.4 you reach max power at 6,000 then until 7,000 you feel the power slowly slowly going away then at 7,250 you hit the fuel cutoff! it gives you notice, the TA just kills you straight up haha.

Which is why I'm surprised you're considering a diesel.
 
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