Technical Service Icon on dash display.

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BigKev

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Hello folks,

Does anyone know how to extinguish the 'service icon' (spanner) on the dash display? I do my own routine maintenance and do not have the info to remove this icon. Our car is, 2009 ('59) 1.4 500C manual 6-speed.

Many thanks,

Kev :)
 
Hello folks,

Does anyone know how to extinguish the 'service icon' (spanner) on the dash display? I do my own routine maintenance and do not have the info to remove this icon. Our car is, 2009 ('59) 1.4 500C manual 6-speed.

Many thanks,

Kev :)
you need the computer = ) multiscanecu if you want to do it yourself, together with the appropriate leads = ) around 50 gbp apparently check http://idiagnostics.co.uk for the cables
 
I'm no expert.
Let's get that out of the way first!

I downloaded MES and had a play without paying for the licence, but I found I couldn't do anything at all. I could go between sections and do a scan to see what bits were what, but if I tried to access any of the adjustments or info, the screen would show what I could do but only for a second and it would flip back.

I paid for the licence and paid £37.29 for it ......... depends on the Euro/GBP rates at the time.

Since paying for the licence, I can do it all ............... and I've been able to stop that awful wailing alarm when the seatbelt is undone. :):) Highly recommended.

Thanks,
Mick.
 
Yes, we're completely Apple Mac here. Macbooks, a MacBook Air and an iMac.

I looked on the internet and found a secondhand Dell laptop and paid £50 for it including delivery. It works well and so my total cost for MES had to include the £50 as well.

I could have used BaseCamp and bought a copy of Windows, or bought Parallels, but by the time I'd fiddled with that lot, it was easier to just buy a PC laptop with Windows already there.

I have no intention of using the Dell for anything else except MES. Windows is awful compared to anything Mac. :)

Regards,
Mick.
 
I have no intention of using the Dell for anything else except MES. Windows is awful compared to anything Mac. :)

You'll need to use it for eLearn as well ;) eLearn is the workshop manual system from FIAT - badly organised and made with technology stuck in the 90's, but capable of providing illustrated procedures for most servicing and repair jobs, plus some useful technical descriptions of how systems on the 500 work.

Check the downloads section of this forum - it is a disk image which you'll need to mount (make into a virtual CD drive) - then it will be there and ready-to-run. It's not as difficult as it sounds. I just used Google to search for "mount ISO image Windows".

-Alex
 
For the 500, you'll need an ELM327 cable. For other FIATs older than a Stilo, you'll need the translucent blue KKL cable.

You'll also need adapters, particularly the yellow one that Gendan.co.uk sells. I recommend the three-adaptor set (red, green, yellow) as it's not expensive and covers you for all ECUs in the 500 and any other FIAT/Alfa.

The MultiECUScan.net website shows the wiring of these adapters in case you need to make your own, but it is a whole lot easier and cheaper just to buy them. These adapters also replace the need for modifying the old KKL cables by joining pin 7 to pin 3, etc.

-Alex
 
You'll need to use it for eLearn as well ;) eLearn is the workshop manual system from FIAT
Thanks, never thought of that!

Rather unwilling to connect the Dell to the internet as it has no anti-virus software, but I may take the risk.

Cheers,
Mick.
 
Thanks, never thought of that!

Rather unwilling to connect the Dell to the internet as it has no anti-virus software, but I may take the risk.

Cheers,
Mick.

There's no need to connect the Dell to the internet to use eLearn - you could use the Mac to grab the files from the download section and either create a cd on the Mac or transfer the files onto the Dell & process them from there.
 
Thanks, never thought of that!

Rather unwilling to connect the Dell to the internet as it has no anti-virus software, but I may take the risk.

Cheers,
Mick.
anti virus software? windows has anti virus protection as default with windows defender. i never use any other anti virus software, they just ruin the computer's performance and my pocket as well!
 
Thanks, both of you.
Windows Defender? Never heard of it! :eek:

The Dell laptop has Windows Vista installed. I have no other info, no handbooks, no program CDs ........... just the laptop and the power supply.

I'll have a play with it shortly. I hate it TBH. PCs are very strange and weird when all you have ever used was Macs. All the menus and controls are hidden away and you have a button called "Start". I keep looking for an ignition key!

Thanks muchly,
Mick.
 
Thanks, both of you.
Windows Defender? Never heard of it! :eek:

The Dell laptop has Windows Vista installed. I have no other info, no handbooks, no program CDs ........... just the laptop and the power supply.

I'll have a play with it shortly. I hate it TBH. PCs are very strange and weird when all you have ever used was Macs. All the menus and controls are hidden away and you have a button called "Start". I keep looking for an ignition key!

Thanks muchly,
Mick.
I have used both macs and windows extensively, and for 'professionals' windows is far superior.

Windows Vista is a proper dog though, good luck with that!
 
The Dell laptop has Windows Vista installed. I have no other info, no handbooks, no program CDs ........... just the laptop and the power supply.

Fortunately the Dell support website is one of the best in the business. The first thing to do is to locate the service tag on the laptop and use that to download all the relevant manuals.

All Dell's sold within living memory were delivered with a software utility to return them to a factory fresh state. I'd suggest the second thing you do is to run that utility. The model-specific manual will give you precise instructions as to how to use the factory restore facility.

After you've 'virginised' your laptop, you should connect it to the internet and allow Vista to update - this may require several iterations and reboots and will likely take hours rather than minutes.

Come back in this thread for now if you get stuck, though I might need to move any complex questions to the Computing section in Leisure Lounge, where there is likely a broader specturm of experience.
 
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Thanks.
It was the first thing I did. Can't remember much about it, but I found out how to restore to factory settings, and it did indeed download all the Vista updates. I was able to put my name into the login part too.

Steep learning curve for me and my heart was in my mouth whilst doing it. I kept telling myself that it was only £50 worth of laptop and what did I expect from £50. ;) Amusing really, as I do like gadgets.

Any road up, it does what I wanted it for quite well. It sits in the cupboard in the living room switched off and unloved ................ but it will spring into action as and when required.

My computer upbringing is really one of weapons computers in the RN. I was in charge of a whole weapons system with huge Ferranti computers and computer controlled radars, so technology isn't a stranger to me. We had all sorts of data storage equipment and IT in the offices but the PC side of it was from a system called OASIS which stood for On Board Accounting Stores and Information System, and the offices had terminals connected to the main frame. No such thing as Windows from what I remember. ;) Some years later, I was in management in charge of people in charge of weapon systems, so instead of being hands on, I had a pen and a clipboard. :mad:

I left the RN in April 1996 and bought our first computer, an iBook in 2001 so this is my first foray into the realms of Windows.

Just a little story ........
Mick.
 
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I have used both macs and windows extensively, and for 'professionals' windows is far superior.

Windows Vista is a proper dog though, good luck with that!
Slightly off topic, but hey ho. I've been using Macs since 1984 when they first came out. I've used Windows extensively too.

I'm amazed at your comment that Windoze is far superior for "professionals". The Mac OS, has and always will be far superior in every way. It never breaks, it's fast. The architecture of a Mac has always been quality and was banned for export to certain countries when the G4 came out as it was classed as a weapon because it was so fast.

Windoze will always be a poor copy of the Mac OS.
 
Slightly off topic, but hey ho. I've been using Macs since 1984 when they first came out. I've used Windows extensively too.

I'm amazed at your comment that Windoze is far superior for "professionals". The Mac OS, has and always will be far superior in every way. It never breaks, it's fast. The architecture of a Mac has always been quality and was banned for export to certain countries when the G4 came out as it was classed as a weapon because it was so fast.

Windoze will always be a poor copy of the Mac OS.

Meanwhile - hopefully you spotted my post #11 about the cables, which was 'on-topic' :rolleyes:

Computers are just tools these days. There isn't the romance that there once was - well, maybe Macs invoke that kind of passion in some people, but for most of us, getting work done means switching on a PC laptop and putting up with Windows, in the same way that driving into a city means putting up with a traffic jam.

Back in the days of the Sinclair Spectrum, the Amiga 500, etc. the computer experience was equivalent to Toad of Toad Hall taking a joyride in his early motoring contraptions - little practical use, but a whole lot more fun.

I'm writing this on an iPhone (as usual), but recently I bought a MacBook, having never had a Mac before and having not used one for 20 years. I had the opposite experience to Mick with the menus - the one menu bar at the top of the screen, in black and white (what happened to the colour Apple introduced in 1992 with the LC, lol) and because there's only one menu bar, you have to select the right window first. If there are no windows open, sometimes the menu bar is still active for a particular program. It's all very confusing ;)

Macs seem to avoid displaying error messages. For example if you use iTunes to sync files to an iPad, the files (PDF files in this case) might or might not appear. Same with Photo Stream - photos might be there, or they might not be. There is never any message to offer any reasons as to why not! Things either happen automatically or they don't happen at all.

I was surprised at how clumsy it was to scroll through thousands of photos over and over again (it never remembers the last place used), but eventually I suppose I'll get things better organised. There's also a dearth of progress bars - such as, when uploading photos to this forum (in the attachment window) - no feedback at all except the Upload button staying stuck down. If a busy pointer ever appears, it seems to mean that it's crashed :)

I think System 7 was excellent by the standards of the day (umm, 1994) - it was slick and effective. I used Photoshop 2.5 and Premiere 1.0 on a Quadra 605 or LC475. That was the year QuickTime came out and I used to take my video tapes (from the school VHS camera) to the Apple dealer, where I'd spend hours capturing the video onto a Quadra 840 with DSP card, compressing with Cinepak codec (320x240, 15fps) and storing the clips onto 88MB Syquest discs. Those huge discs were equivalent to a hundred floppy discs for my own computer (an Amiga 600). Then I'd write the final result to a CD at Double Speed (only half a hour!) with the CD writer that was worth nearly $2000.

Other 14-year-olds in Hamilton had paper rounds, I spent all my free time using any spare Macs I could find to edit and publish videos of science topics... think I was probably a bit before my time on that one, as the Internet was yet to feature in most people's lives. I was posting CDs to other schools, uploading files to BBSs...

Those Mac applications (Photoshop and Premiere) were truly something amazing - compared to my previous experience with Deluxe Paint IV - I mean, video editing! at a time when the PC struggled to insert a clip art image of a duck smashing a computer. Then there was HyperCard/HyperTalk, which was an event-based object-oriented programming environment - awesome stuff. Two years before, I'd almost mastered BASIC on my Commodore 64. This felt like one week repairing a lawnmower engine and the next week building a jet engine.

There's been a lot of water under the bridge since then. I gave up doing 'media' stuff and became an electronics engineer. Then I was made redundant and became a trainer for spreadsheet skills. Now it's gone full circle, as I make training videos (as well as presenting courses online and in person).

I'm not sure if OS X is 'better' than Windows, but the hardware is certainly beautiful. It's a bit like having a kitchen made of marble, with huge counter tops and a single sink. Windows is knocked together from MDF but you do get double sinks plus a load of cupboard space. You can cook the same meals in either kitchen - if you can cook (or be bothered cooking).

-Alex
 
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