Hey guys.

I've had the beast for just over three weeks now. What a pleasure to drive and own... That is all

Right so I hope this isn't a dumb question but how the devil do I set the new TFT screen to display an instant mpg value as opposed to the average mpg I get on the Trip A screen.

Thanks in advance.

Danielle

Press the button at the end of the wiper stick, until you get the 'home' screen, i.e. the one with the picture of the little white 500. Range is displayed on the left, instant consumption on the right

You're a star! I was pressing the Trip button but didn't realise when referring to the manual which said have the key at MAR ON the engine had to be on.

Blond moment.

So I scrolled to the picture you mentioned and instant consumption is now displayed.. woo woo.

I would have just spent a lifetime looking at the Trip A data.. He he

hold down to reset whichever trip you're on too. Oh and read the blinking manual!

306maxi said:

Oh and read the blinking manual!

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Oh no not this again :bang:.

The moderator is not amused .

Maxi, there are lots of good reasons why someone might want to ask a question on the forum in preference to reading the manual.

They might be away from home, the 'manual' might be a CD that's fallen down the back of a drawer somewhere, or they might just find it easier to ask a simple question which someone can simply answer with no great effort.

Besides, the manual doesn't always give the right answer, and it's by no means unknown for folks to be supplied with the wrong manual for their car.

IMO there's more useful information to be had here on this forum than in all the documentation and manuals Fiat have ever produced. If folks want to use the forum in preference to trawling through 100+ pages of sometimes badly phrased and confusing Anglo-Italian, that to my mind is what we're all here for - especially those who've been around awhile, have a great deal of useful knowledge and experience to contribute, and have proven they are capable of much better.

Maybe it's time you took another look at the forum's 'manuals'; in particular this sticky on the treatment of new members.

You may have posted what you did with the intention of assisting, but what you actually achieved was to get several people's backs up late at night and cause me to spend time I could have spent out in the sunshine typing this and tidying up the thread.

I realise some other folks may have contributed to feeding the flames, but they also had the courtesy and good manners to apologise and in this instance I think they can claim due provocation.

So I'll just delete the offending posts and draw a line under this one; but I won't sit back in future if anyone responds to a genuine request for help with an instruction to 'read the manual' or 'use the search function'.

As I always say, there should also be a thread about how to treat people who have been on here a while.

The point of my post wasn't to offend or belittle. The point I was trying to make was that the manual will tell you pretty much everything you were wanting to know, plus thing which you didn't even realise you wanted to know.

Why does everyone have to go off like a pork chop when they get an answer that isn't quite what they were expecting? Do people really think that someone is going to sit on here for 5 or 6 years with the sole intention of making people unhappy?

Perhaps I should have shut up after the first reply but I took great offence to someone saying I was a bitter person.

I never set out to offend or belittle the op and I'm sorry if they took it that way, but it was their way of taking it.

306maxi said:

The point of my post wasn't to offend or belittle.

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Maxi, I'm sure you didn't post with the intention of offending or belittling. I would be taking a different course of action if I thought you had.

That said, remember the maxim:

"The meaning of any communication is the response you get"

Think about this.

The thing is John, I could take offence at what you're saying and some certainly would but I'm not going to because firstly I know you're a good guy and secondly I don't always try to think the worst of people.

If we need to be understanding of newbies then shouldn't newbies need to understand that whilst this is the first time they've asked, this might be the 20th time a regular on here has heard it.

Back a few years ago I wouldn't have added anything and then said "read the manual, I'm not telling you anything" but I didn't and I still got crap for it.

I'm sorry but I don't agree that someone's misinterpretation of your intent is somehow the meaning of your statement. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

We have all been members for a while and we are all different creatures ,therefore in text things can be read as differently to a person to person conversation .Some people read manuals some don`t ,some want a quick answer some don`t , i can feel a song coming on Therefore we all need to be patient on here it`s a great place to be for help and friendly banter lets keep that

Maxi the whole issue is how you address people. Fundamentally the newbies (like myself). But also others I have noticed. If I had offended anyone in anyway (which I apologise if I did yesterday to yourself) I would be mortified. But you argue till your black and blue not taking any accountability of your actions or upset to others.

When you have responses from others (and there have been others) like you did from myself yesterday, surely alarm bells should be ringing??

A newbie may have trawled through the forum to see if there was an answer to there question, not been sure on how to use the forum or even have already have trawled through the manual. The fact that you assume they haven't, I'm not actually sure what grounds you have to come to that conclusion. Being a regular whom comments on every thread surely you should be open minded and patient with everyone. Especially the newbies.

I think the whole issue was how I worded the question. I should have asked that the Trip button doesn't seem to be working on my car. I have tried with the engine on and in the MAR-ON position but no joy. And I have read and re-read the manual. (The outcome; I actually needed to turn the engine on and turn the key backwards slightly to the MAR-ON position then I was able to display the screen the OP advised me to do)

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I think the whole issue was how I worded the question.

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I think the whole issue was post #4 ; this thread could have ended happily ever after at post #3 . Maxi's comment, however well intentioned, seemed only to annoy most everyone else.

Sometimes the best form of communication is no communication at all. .

Let's not start arguing about the way we're arguing; I believe most of us are here, Maxi included, because we want to use the knowledge and experience we have to help others. The majority view seems to be that being told to read the instructions doesn't help them.

What I don't want to see is new folks, including those who haven't even joined up yet, being put off asking questions because they feel they'll be belittled for not first having used the search button or the manual. Sometimes the easiest way to find out something is to just ask.

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I think the whole issue was post #4 ; this thread could have ended happily ever after at post #3 . Maxi's comment, however well intentioned, seemed only to annoy most everyone else.

Sometimes the best form of communication is no communication at all. .

Let's not start arguing about the way we're arguing; I believe most of us are here, Maxi included, because we want to use the knowledge and experience we have to help others. The majority view seems to be that being told to read the instructions doesn't help them.

What I don't want to see is new folks, including those who haven't even joined up yet, being put off asking questions because they feel they'll be belittled for not first having used the search button or the manual. Sometimes the easiest way to find out something is to just ask.

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No, it would appear John that you have an issue with me and that anytime someone takes issue with something I say, rather than looking at things and saying "OK, I think there's been a misunderstanding here, no one was trying to cause a fight" you go and say that I've done the wrong thing even though you acknowledge that I was actually trying to be helpful.


Rather than trying to build bridges and trying to promote understanding between people, you back to person that makes an incorrect assumption.


Do we really want to have a forum where we aren't able to suggest that a user read the manual? I don't have an issue with people coming and asking questions, if I did then I would say it.

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I think you should take heed of your own advice there 306maxi... 'think before opening your mouth'

You are one cynical human being.

Whom is constantly logged onto this forum (do you not work?) ready to berate everyones comments!

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It seems to me that the problem with this forum is that wherever I'm concerned it's OK to call me cynical, make out that I'm jobless, rude, miserable or whatever. People have chosen to click the thanks button 786 times on my posts yet it seems fine for someone to come on here and insinuate that I'm some sort of troll who derives satisfaction out of making people unhappy, what if this sort of treatment makes me unhappy? Guess that doesn't matter.

If I was to start slinging names and insults around like this it would be infraction city. We're going to end up with a silly forum where mob rule dictates that you agree with the status quo or be made out to be miserable, jobless, cynical or worse.


If you want this then I'll **** off and you can have the forum to yourselves if you're going to treat me like **** every time I don't bow and curtsy to every newbie and give them exactly what they want only to see them back 30 minutes later asking another question and then another 30 minutes later.

306maxi said:

No, it would appear John that you have an issue with me and that anytime someone takes issue with something I say, rather than looking at things and saying "OK, I think there's been a misunderstanding here, no one was trying to cause a fight" you go and say that I've done the wrong thing even though you acknowledge that I was actually trying to be helpful.


Rather than trying to build bridges and trying to promote understanding between people, you back to person that makes an incorrect assumption.


Do we really want to have a forum where we aren't able to suggest that a user read the manual? I don't have an issue with people coming and asking questions, if I did then I would say it.








It seems to me that the problem with this forum is that wherever I'm concerned it's OK to call me cynical, make out that I'm jobless, rude, miserable or whatever. People have chosen to click the thanks button 786 times on my posts yet it seems fine for someone to come on here and insinuate that I'm some sort of troll who derives satisfaction out of making people unhappy, what if this sort of treatment makes me unhappy? Guess that doesn't matter.

If I was to start slinging names and insults around like this it would be infraction city. We're going to end up with a silly forum where mob rule dictates that you agree with the status quo or be made out to be miserable, jobless, cynical or worse.


If you want this then I'll **** off and you can have the forum to yourselves if you're going to treat me like **** every time I don't bow and curtsy to every newbie and give them exactly what they want only to see them back 30 minutes later asking another question and then another 30 minutes later.

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maxi for one day can you stop fighting the whole forum? i think its not a coincidence that you are always the one in trouble. you are useful to the forum i will admit that with your knowledge, but you could do with being less belligerent, especially to new or less car minded people who only come here for some help.

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maxi for one day can you stop fighting the whole forum? i think its not a coincidence that you are always the one in trouble. you are useful to the forum i will admit that with your knowledge, but you could do with being less belligerent, especially to new or less car minded people who only come here for some help.

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Perhaps if people didn't try and insinuate that I'm a troll, miserable, enjoy berating people and that I'm jobless then perhaps I'd be in a better mood?

You obviously have a job, so people should be aware of that and leave it out. Not fair.

Exactly. I've always tried to live by the rule of "it's about the post, not the poster" and to me that means not trying to find reasons in your head as to why someone has said things and to try and take things at face value and not assign some (usually false intent) to someone's post.

Getting great MPG from my Twinair!

ahmett said:

maxi for one day can you stop fighting the whole forum? i think its not a coincidence that you are always the one in trouble. you are useful to the forum i will admit that with your knowledge, but you could do with being less belligerent, especially to new or less car minded people who only come here for some help.

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Ahmett, take it easy on Maxi. He is not fighting the Forum and it would be a sad to lose him, although some people would think otherwise. Maxi has helped me for one, the questions need to be qualified and an injection of humility and fun helps when asking the seniors. It's like going into a shop and asking for help, how would you ask ?

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Perhaps if people didn't try and insinuate that I'm a troll, miserable, enjoy berating people and that I'm jobless then perhaps I'd be in a better mood?

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I would agree with that, calling you names was not a good thing.

Moving on, FF is serving the purpose it was intended, let's not lose people.