David Bliss
Member
re: Euro6 1.2 Throttle Response & Hill Start Issues
I have had look at the manifold on my Panda. There is a hole in the top nearside of the manifold. It is larger than the studs and there is a spot of green paint near it on the plastic.
I do not have any idling problems with my car. It is low-down torque and throttle response that my engine is lacking in, especially if you have stopped and the engine has been allowed to idle for a few seconds. It is very easy to stall this car. Although I have become more accustomed to managing the inadequacies of the vehicle, once in a while it can really put you in a dangerous position. Pulling onto a busy roundabout in fast moving traffic is bad. Hill starts have to be a 'snatch and go' with your foot flat down, which is very bad for clutch longevity.
Someone mentioned that the weight of the car had increased, but this would not cause this sort of problem. I agree with the comment that it is the drive to reduce emissions that underlies it. I would prefer to pay extra road tax to get the performance and more miles to the gallon back!
Having said all that I do appreciate the better handling of the car, compared to my last Panda. It has gone back to the sportier feel that I used to associate with the Fiat cars of many years ago.
We need to bombard Fiat with our complaints to push them into sorting the issue out quickly, I don't want a car that has the performance of a Trevant!
I am going to post this on the Panda section as well.
David
PS: If anybody is really interested, I have already been in touch with a performance testing firm and could put both my new Panda and the 09 one that my daughter now has on their rolling road to get an accurate comparison.
I have had look at the manifold on my Panda. There is a hole in the top nearside of the manifold. It is larger than the studs and there is a spot of green paint near it on the plastic.
I do not have any idling problems with my car. It is low-down torque and throttle response that my engine is lacking in, especially if you have stopped and the engine has been allowed to idle for a few seconds. It is very easy to stall this car. Although I have become more accustomed to managing the inadequacies of the vehicle, once in a while it can really put you in a dangerous position. Pulling onto a busy roundabout in fast moving traffic is bad. Hill starts have to be a 'snatch and go' with your foot flat down, which is very bad for clutch longevity.
Someone mentioned that the weight of the car had increased, but this would not cause this sort of problem. I agree with the comment that it is the drive to reduce emissions that underlies it. I would prefer to pay extra road tax to get the performance and more miles to the gallon back!
Having said all that I do appreciate the better handling of the car, compared to my last Panda. It has gone back to the sportier feel that I used to associate with the Fiat cars of many years ago.
We need to bombard Fiat with our complaints to push them into sorting the issue out quickly, I don't want a car that has the performance of a Trevant!
I am going to post this on the Panda section as well.
David
PS: If anybody is really interested, I have already been in touch with a performance testing firm and could put both my new Panda and the 09 one that my daughter now has on their rolling road to get an accurate comparison.
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