Technical Euro6 1.2 Throttle Response, Hill Start Issues & Watchdog report

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Technical Euro6 1.2 Throttle Response, Hill Start Issues & Watchdog report

An old thread but thought I’d chip in with my experience having recently bought a 2014 Ford KA euro 6 with the same engine and exact same problem. I only wish I had read about this before buying the car as I sure as heck wouldn’t have bought it.

It’s mechanically perfect with only 22k miles but this pulling off from standstill is seriously grating my tits! I’ve had to learn to not touch the throttle until I’ve first released the clutch otherwise it will bog down or the revs will go crazy high. It’s ok for plodding around but when you need quick getaways at busy junctions or roundabouts it’s not nice as you have to tootle off slowly by raising the clutch and then there’s still a slight delay when pressing the throttle before the engine actually reacts.

Anyway, after reading the many reports of similar people and the article written by Superchips, who claim to have fixed the problem with their own remap, I decided to go ahead and have it done by superchips.

I specifically made it clear that this was the same problem affecting many early 2014 euro 6 models of the fiat 500, ford ka & Panda and was assured this would fix the throttle response issue.

Well it hasn’t and speaking to the technician who put the software on, it appears that this map is not the one that superchips did the article about, apparently they went bust in lockdown and brought out by remap kings who use their own maps, and this map was the standard and only map they use for these cars. He said he’s done quite a few of these cars and drivers have been very happy, but it appears that the ones who were happy with the results were the ones driving the older euro 5 software. I didn’t realise this until after he put the map on.

With this map the car doesn’t bog down but is gutless. Using the throttle to pull away is having no or little effect until the revs get high. It won’t even pull up a kerb with the throttle almost to the floor and riding the clutch, something is still controlling the revs preventing any input of the throttle from doing what you actually want it to. I also notice with this map that it doesn’t have the same mid-range torque and needs more gear changes when driving inclines. It seems slightly better at top end when over 4.5k rpm, but as it’s not fixed the throttle response issue and down on power at mid-range I am having this map removed and the original one reinstalled.

I’ve read posts where people have had their car remapped and cured the problem and it’s like driving a completely different car, so there must be something available.
Hi, did you ever find a fix. I have the fiat 500, exact same issue. Booked into fiat next week. They weren't much help when I spoke to them. Just said they'll plug in and see if there is an ecu update. Thanks
 
Just said they'll plug in and see if there is an ecu update. Thanks
Do let us know the outcome.

How much are they charging you for this, by the way?

If they can't help, or they quote you a silly price just to look at it, I'd suggest trying the trick of disabling the clutch sensor as described in this thread. It won't cost you anything, and you can always put it back the way it was if it doesn't give you the drive that you want.

After that, I'd give the remapping contact a call.
 
Do let us know the outcome.

How much are they charging you for this, by the way?
£138 1 hours labour. Pretty sure they will see if there is an update within 2 mins of plugging in. If no update available I won't be paying the full £138 1 hours labour. Not sure whether to mention clutch switch replacement/reset like others have mentioned or leave it to them.
 
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