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IJK said:
Well we have done it. Picking up the new one on Thursday. Drove really nice although the seats didn't feel quite as good as the sports but happy we have jumped ship. :cool:
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Ah - there was the important message :) glad to spot it!

If anyone wants to discuss DPFs till they're blue in the face, just head on over to Alfaowner.com and the 159/Brera/Spider section. I'm driving a 159 JTDm 1.9 these days and it seems to be happily re-generating every 600km or so. I'd still pick a petrol engine for a small car like the 500 though!

-Alex
 
My mum has just ordered a 1.2 lounge. However the dealer tried to sell her a diesel 500 despite knowing that the mileage in her mini she bought new 4 years ago only is 14,000 miles.

If I hadn't been there she may have considered buying it - she like most people wouldn't know about this issue.

Although having said that the dealer did make one comment that was you have to average 18,000 miles a year to get the extra cost of the diesel car and fuel to benefit you ..... To a lady that does approx 3.5k a year mileage!! That luckily would have put her off had she been there alone.
 
DPF is a pain in the rear, swap it. just watch out for the constant breather pipe failure if is a 1.4
 
Last wash before Thursday.
I mentioned to a mate this morning that the car is going due to the dpf. He has a A3 sline quatttro 170 bhp diesel. His journey to work consists of start stop town journey of 4 miles, he'd never heard of the filter either but then his hadn't come on in 3 years of ownership.
Not that any of this makes any difference to me now :eek:
 

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Just asked him to look at his dash warning lights. It does.
All my companies sales cars / directors cars must all have issues as they all live local. Ill have a word with the fleet manager in morning! I wonder if fiat vans / ducattos have same issues. Seen as we build about 30 per week on fiat cabs.
 
IJK said:
Just asked him to look at his dash warning lights. It does.
All my companies sales cars / directors cars must all have issues as they all live local. Ill have a word with the fleet manager in morning! I wonder if fiat vans / ducattos have same issues. Seen as we build about 30 per week on fiat cabs.
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Just because there's a light on the dash doesn't mean that it has one. The cluster in a 1.2 has the light for sport mode, yet no 1.2 500 has sport mode.

Mercky said:
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Oh great, someone points out a fact and you choose to be willfully ignorant about it :)
 
IJK said:
Just asked him to look at his dash warning lights. It does.
All my companies sales cars / directors cars must all have issues as they all live local. Ill have a word with the fleet manager in morning! I wonder if fiat vans / ducattos have same issues. Seen as we build about 30 per week on fiat cabs.
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The local Post Office depot to me use 13 reg Fiat vans. Doing local deliveries. I had wondered previously how they would cope.

It is good news that more and more people are becoming aware of the possible issues with DPF, unfortunately some people have learnt the hard way which is horrible for them. Perhaps BBC Watchdog programme could feature this issue (they may have already even). I can think of 4 friends who have also suffered after learning their cars were unsuitable for their needs and have now gone back to petrol.
 
MN500 said:
The local Post Office depot to me use 13 reg Fiat vans. Doing local deliveries. I had wondered previously how they would cope.

It is good news that more and more people are becoming aware of the possible issues with DPF, unfortunately some people have learnt the hard way which is horrible for them. Perhaps BBC Watchdog programme could feature this issue (they may have already even). I can think of 4 friends who have also suffered after learning their cars were unsuitable for their needs and have now gone back to petrol.
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When I was at Avis Terminal 5, they were deciding on which car to give me as I had insisted in the reservation that it must be diesel. The rental salesperson was like does it have to be a diesel? I said YES (so he looked at the 10 keys he had and found a BMW 116 d efficient dynamics) and gave it to me, saying lucky you! I guess they didn't have many diesels to pick up at the rental station.


It was really handy though 5.5l/100 km over 700 miles would have been impossible with my driving style with a petrol car!
 
MN500 said:
Perhaps BBC Watchdog programme could feature this issue (they may have already even).
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Unlikely. The media are bought and paid for 'CO2 reduction' lapdogs. As fair as they're concerned everyone should be driving diesel.
 
At the last visit to the Fiat dealership there was a couple who had been told by motability to swap there diesel for a petrol because it was causing to many problems.
 
MN500 said:
The local Post Office depot to me use 13 reg Fiat vans. Doing local deliveries. I had wondered previously how they would cope.

It is good news that more and more people are becoming aware of the possible issues with DPF, unfortunately some people have learnt the hard way which is horrible for them. Perhaps BBC Watchdog programme could feature this issue (they may have already even). I can think of 4 friends who have also suffered after learning their cars were unsuitable for their needs and have now gone back to petrol.
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Well Royal Mail do deliveries,Not Post Office counters
How do the Doblos do?
Terribly. DPF failures ahoy. The diesels simply cant cope with stop start driving
average speed on a delivery van will generally be in the low 20s at most
Manual states 15 minutes regen at a steady 60mph/2K+ rpm
So thats a straight piece of road 15 miles long in ideal conditions allowing for 60Mph speeds

was sat in a Doblo XL today.34 miles on the clock and the DPF light on
 
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MN500 said:
Perhaps BBC Watchdog programme could feature this issue (they may have already even).
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UFI said:
Unlikely. The media are bought and paid for 'CO2 reduction' lapdogs. As fair as they're concerned everyone should be driving diesel.
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Watchdog did a feature back in 2011. However, they're not an exemplar of balanced and in-depth investigation and only targeted Fiat and Nissan. There isn't a link on the BBC website any more but a synopsis is here:-

http://whatconsumer.co.uk/forum/con...c-watchdog-your-diesel-filter-out-kilter.html
 
Had my Doblo a year now and no DPF problems yet. I can tell when it is regenerating, but I am a fast driver I suppose so I drive hard even in town? There is a 1.4 petrol version though.

1.4 (n)
 
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