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Useful info thread.

In here you will find useful information about the 500, from the ordering and delivery codes your dealer uses, to common issues/problems and service costs etc.


STATUS ORDERING CODES

As pointed out in another thread, we had no actual list of the status codes used by Fiat describing the progress of cars through the factory in Poland. Which seems crazy seeing as it comes up so often.
So a quick guide.


Once you have placed an order for a Fiat 500 your salesman will hopefully be updating you on a regular basis. He will give you updates on how you 500 is coming along. This information will only be available from the dealership you are purchasing your car from. Actual information will be limited to the status the 500 is at within the Fiat system.

These status are as follows.

10 : Heavy Variability, Confirmed Order. Fiat has your order but it can still be changed

13 : Light Variability, Confirmed Order. This is the point where only limited changes to your order can now happen.

16 : Fixed, Confirmed Order. your order is now fixed and can no longer be changed with regards factory spec.

20 : Built, Fairly self explanatory.

30 : Shipment, At dock waiting to get on a boat.

35 : Transit, On the water bobbing along to the UK

40 : Arrived, At the docks in good old Blighty

45 : Ready, Car is waiting for collection by transport company.

50 : With Delivery Instruction, Delivery instruction has been sent to transport company.

55 : Goods Out, Car is on a transporter on its way to your dealer

60 : Arrival at Dealership, Yay! From Status 60 till you pick up your car is now dependent on what dealership options you have, how efficient your dealer is and when you want to pick it up.




Poor microphone in Blue and Me....

anyone had any problems with people hearing you over the microphone

if so there is a service news about it were fiat will replace the microphone for a better one to fix the problem

Many members have reported this, and Fiat do know about it, so if people cant hear you when using blue and me on your phone, a visit to the dealer could sort you out.



FLASHING MILEAGE

The dash does this to warn fiat Tech's that the accurate clocks in the dash pod and the body computer (that are vital for the accurate timing of the message packets sent over the can network) are not synchronised.

If it is flashing or has been flashing then once you need to go to your dealer and have a proxy alignment procedure carried out on the car with fiat examiner.

Even if it has stopped flashing it still needs doing the car cannot align it's self it does not matter what you do remove battery or turn off and on again the problem will still be there and still needs sorting so don't ignore it.

It will take just a matter of minutes for the Tech to do this after the time it takes for the service desk to finish booking you in.

if it is not done things on the car will stop working properly basically anything that relies on the can network.

It should be done on pdi as the cars have the earth clamp removed in storage at docks.

Having the battery off the car for any length of time will cause the clocks to stop when the power in the body computer and dash runs out meaning when reconnected it will need it doing again' they are only designed to keep running for a small period after the battery is removed like for example the time it takes to change a battery or maybe carry out some simple work on the car that requires the removal of the battery.

fiat have been using can networks for some time now so you may well ask why does it seem as thou only newer fiats are affected buy this.

Well it's all to do with the speed the can nets are running at now and the amount of electronics now connected to it with the advances of blue and me parking sensors abs ebd air bags and basically every ecu on the car.

If the alignment is out it will never stop the car from driving as the key code is sent down a dedicated wire from body computer to engine ecu.

But it may affect things that are quite important for driving like the dash may not show you speed rpm and other important things properly.

However in all cases you will still be able to drive safely to the dealer without causing any damage to the car whatsoever.





Part Number Colour code Description
71805017 - 268/A Bossa Nova White
71805024 - 418/B Jive Blue
71805033 - 602/A Breakbeat Grey
71805023 - 415/B Mod Blue
71804318 - 891/B Crossover Black
71805021 - 309/B Ye Ye Green
71805010 - 104/B Calypso Orange
71805020 - 294/A Cha Cha Cha Azure
71805011 - 111/A Pasodoble Red
71805030 - 509/A Tropicalia Yellow
71805040 - 703/A Punk Grey
71805018 - 270/A Funk White
71804316 - 599/A New Orleans Blue
**part no. not released yet** 952 -Volare Blue




This is an updated version of the previous useful info thread with some of the now irrelevant info removed.



This thread will remain open, and I'm hoping some of our more experienced members will add to it. However I will be cleaning it up if and when required. So if there is something you think should be in here please feel free to add it.
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Re: Useful info thread.

DPFs and oil changes and servicing for the Diesel


The main issue with the DPF system used by Fiat and many other manufacturers, is that the filter is purged by injecting extra fuel into the combustion chamber which increases the temperature of the gases flowing through the exhaust and burns the particulates out.

By injecting the extra fuel into the cylinder, a small amount will bypass the rings and make it's way into the sump and dilute the oil. Once the ECU calculates the number and duration of regens is at risk of degrading the oil too much, it illuminates the oil change lamp/message.

The above can also have the symptom of actually raising the oil level on the dip stick.


If your car has a DPF, the oil change is never "part of the service"- it's a seperate area which should be monitored by the Tech during the normal service, and only changed after a conversation with yourself about the level of degradation, miles left 'til the next change, and whether you want it done there and then or return at a later date when the ECU decides it will be required.

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http://www.fiatforum.com/500/240374-...oil-light.html
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Venters. I finish my current job next Thursday. Might have to put a week towards doing a buyers guide/faq/commonly answered questions document.
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Bash on Daniel, its the members forum without members contributions it just wouldnt work.
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Venters. I finish my current job next Thursday. Might have to put a week towards doing a buyers guide/faq/commonly answered questions document.
It's been on the cards for a while now, don't forget, any extra info you think I could offer is just a PM away.
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Daniel, Any progress on this yet?
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I'll get onto it. Only thing that makes it slightly pointless is the upcoming twinair and twinair+ spec.
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Yeah! I guess it will always be a work in progress.
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