hi anybody know if poss to turn off oil change warning i only do low milage 2years old in march 1st sevice jan 09 at 4000miles ligt flashing to change oil present milags 6500 i was going to get small service in march when 2 years old.1.3multijet lounge red with red leather.

Re: jack

Your engine moniters oil quality and the light comes on when it feels it needs changed.

I'd get your dealer to check it out- it shouldn't perform enough DPF regenerations to degrade the oil that quickly.

jack kenworthy said:

hi anybody know if poss to turn off oil change warning i only do low milage 2years old in march 1st sevice jan 09 at 4000miles ligt flashing to change oil present milags 6500 i was going to get small service in march when 2 years old.1.3multijet lounge red with red leather.

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Jack, 2500 miles in a year probably means you either make lots of short trips or very few long journeys. If the latter then there might be a DPF update that you can get the dealer to carry out that might overcome this problem.

If the former then it is more understandable as the engine might have failed to complete some regeneration cycles fully. Have you had the "filter clogged" light come on very often and if so this could be part of the reason for the early warning message to change the oil.

I had my last oil change 2200 miles after my first annual service and that was with me doing many longer trips and when round town using lower gears to keep the revs above the 1800RPM as that helps keep the filter clear.

I have had the software update and still need to take the car on a 20mile trip at least once a fortnight to clear the "filter clogged" warning light.

As the car had it's service over 12 months ago I would get it in now and not wait until March.

thank you for information i only do short journeys but still think that oil should do more miles ,i think its based on time .i ordered care dec07 built jan08 delivered mar08
first service indicator came on in jan09 at 4000miles short service done including filter change 2nd serive indicator ie change oil came on jan2010 ex 12months from 1st only done 2500 miles from 1st service. going to take in for service and get it checked to cover 3rd year warranty, will keep posted

jack kenworthy said:

thank you for information i only do short journeys but still think that oil should do more miles ,i think its based on time .i ordered care dec07 built jan08 delivered mar08
first service indicator came on in jan09 at 4000miles short service done including filter change 2nd serive indicator ie change oil came on jan2010 ex 12months from 1st only done 2500 miles from 1st service. going to take in for service and get it checked to cover 3rd year warranty, will keep posted

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As the posters above have said. using the car on short journeys will cause the oil to degrade within a lower mileage. it's how many cold starts you do which is what really kills the oil.

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Venters said:

Your engine moniters oil quality and the light comes on when it feels it needs changed.

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absolutely

why does everyone feel the need to question this

Re: jack

Car doing exactly what it should. Why did you want a diesel when you do such low mileage? You will spend as much money on oil as you will save on fuel economy.Unfortunatly, your sales executive obviously didn't qualify your needs enough and tell you about the disadvantages of a diesel with a DPF.

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elation said:

Car doing exactly what it should. Why did you want a diesel when you do such low mileage? You will spend as much money on oil as you will save on fuel economy.Unfortunatly, your sales executive obviously didn't qualify your needs enough and tell you about the disadvantages of a diesel with a DPF.

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Even without the cost of extra oil changes I very much doubt that the diesel would give a decent saving in economy @ such low yearly mileages unless you owned it for a long time.

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elation said:

Unfortunatly, your sales executive obviously didn't qualify your needs enough and tell you about the disadvantages of a diesel with a DPF.

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To be fair. You can lead a horse to water.

Many times when I sold cars I would try educate people on the options regarding diesel vs petrol. Many people just assume your agenda isn't to have a happy customer but to screw them over in someway.

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Venters said:

To be fair. You can lead a horse to water.

Many times when I sold cars I would try educate people on the options regarding diesel vs petrol. Many people just assume your agenda isn't to have a happy customer but to screw them over in someway.

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Yes there's a lot of those types.

"Ok mr X, what you need to do to sort that (simple) problem is to call this number and do this"

Oh noooooooooooooooo I'm not doing that! You just want to keep my money etc etc :bang:

Re: jack

Ah, so people do occasionally accept that us salesmen aren't always Lucifer's minions? Funniest thing I ever heard was a solicitor telling me that we were all money grabbers. I fought back.

To be fair, I have had a few instances similar. "I do three thousand miles a year, but a diesel will do four bajillion miles to the gallon, so i'll save millions, dave from down the pub / my son / daughter / friend told me so."

No, really, listen to me, its my job to know about cars.

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elation said:

Ah, so people do occasionally accept that us salesmen aren't always Lucifer's minions? Funniest thing I ever heard was a solicitor telling me that we were all money grabbers. I fought back.

To be fair, I have had a few instances similar. "I do three thousand miles a year, but a diesel will do four bajillion miles to the gallon, so i'll save millions, dave from down the pub / my son / daughter / friend told me so."

No, really, listen to me, its my job to know about cars.

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No disrespect to salespeople but I always do my research before I go into the showroom when I make any purchase so for all intents and purposes the salesman is useless for me because 99% of the time I probably know more than they do But for the people that are undecided or don't know what they're talking about a salesperson can be a valuable asset

The problem is when you get people who think they know everything about cars but don't and just won't listen to the salesperson :doh:

The sales girls in Wessex Fiat, Cardiff could have told me anything she wanted & I'd have belived her.mmmmMMMMMMMmmmmm.

In my opinion, complete oil degradation in 2.5k suggests there's an issue somewhere causing excessive regeneration cycles............... unless the oil didn't need changing at the first service, which means it's actually done 6.5k over 2 years before needing changing- which sounds more acceptable.

Was the oil changed at the first Service in Jan 09?

Its not the 2.5K, its the short journeys that will also trigger the computer to light up.

Cheers

SPD

Oil degradation is based on the number of DPF regeneration cycles which gradually dilute the oil with the excess fuel injected to heat up the filter. Mileage travelled means very little in the calculations.

D4nny8oy said:

Oil degradation is based on the number of DPF regeneration cycles which gradually dilute the oil with the excess fuel injected to heat up the filter. Mileage travelled means very little in the calculations.

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Reading that Danny am I right in thinking it doesn't directly measure or sense oil quality, but rather is programmed to "know" after "x" regenerations the oil is likely to be "y"% degraded?

Thats correct, its an algorithm calculated within the engine management ecu

just get the oil changed and ask for the new software update.