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General How good is the 500 in the snow!!!
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General How good is the 500 in the snow!!!
100% agree!
up until today has been excellent and I actually managed to make it to the end of the road after a bit of snow levelling (car is lowered -60mm so became a snow plough)
the road after that was even deeper though and still falling so gave up and working from home instead
might try again later as i have a colleage down from Scotland in a nearby Hotel
who says Winter tyres are un-necessary now
the road after that was even deeper though and still falling so gave up and working from home instead
might try again later as i have a colleage down from Scotland in a nearby Hotel
who says Winter tyres are un-necessary now
Ah the old "working from home" trick
who says Winter tyres are un-necessary now
That'll be me, although it's a close run thing (watch me put it in a ditch on the way home now)!!!
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Ah the old "working from home" trick
am actually getting more done - remote dial-in
Trust me, this was my road last night and it only got worse during the evening when it froze. Your 500 wouldn't have been so surefooted up there that's for sure.
Countless cars have been getting stuck around our house and I'm sure those people probably thought their cars were surefooted too
No slush there at all, just pure compacted ice
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I'm currently carless at the moment as my mother has totally pinched my 500 to use instead of her Merc because it is so utterly useless in the snow in order to get to work. Have to say that I am proud..but then again I would like my car back xxx
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RWD is completely useless in the snow.I'm currently carless at the moment as my mother has totally pinched my 500 to use instead of her Merc because it is so utterly useless in the snow in order to get to work. Have to say that I am proud..but then again I would like my car back
It's all down to tyres really. I saw a couple of 4wds last night struggling and then I saw a Defender obviously on proper tyres which was shooting snow and slush out the side of its tyres at an alarming rate.
The only things that are going to affect how a car works in the snow are the following
Tyres - 500 scores badly here because other than in Pop form they're too wide and they're all fitted with summer tyres as standard
Good diff - 500 diff is completely open so that's another negative
FWD or 4wd - 500 does OK here because it's FWD
Good weight distribution - 500 does OK here because it's quite light at the back and most of the weight is over the drive wheels
But overall the 500 isn't really going to be all that better or worse than anything else. If you added a proper diff like jnoiles and/or some decent tyres like RobW you'd have something very surefooted.
up until today has been excellent and I actually managed to make it to the end of the road after a bit of snow levelling (car is lowered -60mm so became a snow plough)
the road after that was even deeper though and still falling so gave up and working from home instead
might try again later as i have a colleage down from Scotland in a nearby Hotel
who says Winter tyres are un-necessary now
I agree Rob - no matter what the car, once the snow depth is above the front spoiler you've little chance of progressing further. Apart from getting the shovel out every few metres - no fun on a long jouney
I'm convinced that the tyres are playing the biggest part in the disparity here for us.
Contis don't seem so good in the icy stuff.
I must admit though, that on a slope, the way the throttle responds on the 1.2 doesn't help much. It doesn't do much at all below 1500 rpm and when you want to keep the revs low, its tricky trying to accelerate slowly in 2nd.
(Long second gear for a 1.2)
Contis don't seem so good in the icy stuff.
I must admit though, that on a slope, the way the throttle responds on the 1.2 doesn't help much. It doesn't do much at all below 1500 rpm and when you want to keep the revs low, its tricky trying to accelerate slowly in 2nd.
(Long second gear for a 1.2)
I agree Rob - no matter what the car, once the snow depth is above the front spoiler you've little chance of progressing further. Apart from getting the shovel out every few metres - no fun on a long jouney
i suppose i could get the C spanners out and raise the suspension
seriously it is now snowing heavily again so looks like i'm stuck here 'till at least friday
Get yourself a Subarui suppose i could get the C spanners out and raise the suspension
seriously it is now snowing heavily again so looks like i'm stuck here 'till at least friday
Wifes car might be appearing in EVO soonish as they're doing a feature on the Subaru Legacy RS/Turbo and the Mitsubishi VR4 and need a car as close to standard to drive and take a few photos of keeforelli
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i was behind an 07 330d at a junction today- just a bit slushy- could barely move off...back end weaving all over the place!
no weight over the driving wheels...
Get yourself a Subaru
nice one
nah don't like Scoobies but nearly bought an Evo6 Makinen last year
Nice
Know what's weird? I don't really like Subaru's myself but you can't argue with the performance and all weather capability. Ditto for Mitsubishi's. I'd much rather have an Integrale but I would never want to take it on the road.
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Unless you've also got the motor in the back, old style.
What about the steering though?
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What about the steering though?
Couple of sandbags in the boot up front. I've had a few rear engined motors , great fun in the snow. Get the tail out and flick it round corners. On quiet roads of course.
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I took mine out once in past few weeks - and it was ok. Just ok. Wheels spun a fair bit. I was slightly disappointed.
I had been driving the 4x4 over past few weeks and there is absolutely no contest .. the 4x4 is far far better.
I had been driving the 4x4 over past few weeks and there is absolutely no contest .. the 4x4 is far far better.
