Nero500 said:

I know what you mean about the old days and yes I will call you old fashioned because things move on and in 20 years time these will be the good old days too.

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Yes I am sure there are still some "real" Alfisti who would look at a front wheel drive 156 with disdain...

Alfas shouldnt have diesels, end of Alfas shouldnt be FWD either, its wrong and plain nasty too.

I read somewhere the new generation Alfas are going back to rwd.

nuovapanda said:

Alfas shouldnt have diesels, end of Alfas shouldnt be FWD either, its wrong and plain nasty too.

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. . . and women shouldn't get the vote etc.

now youre talkingLOL.

No one spotted the obvious around Petrol / Diesel debate.

The simple fact is that if you do over 18K miles a year, then after 3 years you will have gained back any price difference.

I an slightly confused around the premium for diesel being talked about, as I am looking at the pricelist and it is saying that the 1.4 & 1.3 MJ Lounge, AND the 1.4 & 1.3 MJ Sport are 10700 OTR.

lfc958

dude...we're talking about difference in price between 1.2 and 1.3...it's £1400

Baerius you tell him Dude

Dude....he's told....

And according to my calculations at 10000 miles per annum it would take 11 years to break even at todays fuel costs.......approx 6 years for 18000 years. Granted the diesel will probably sell for more on the used market but not that much more.

Well done Dude

Simon Bell said:

And according to my calculations at 10000 miles per annum it would take 11 years to break even at todays fuel costs.......approx 6 years for 18000 years. Granted the diesel will probably sell for more on the used market but not that much more.

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I guess it is easier to jusify the 1.3 over the 1.2 rather than the 1.4 as the latter will be less economical, however, I think we are all kidding ourselves as if it came down to pure costs the Panda would be the obvious choice.

It comes down to what you like and I could point you to three decent reviews where the reviewer has plumped for each of the three engines.

Cheers
baldrick

exactly, I bought the 1.3 purely because thats what I prefered. Only one I didnt want was the 1.4, too thirsty and dont like 6 speed gearboxes... too many for me

nuovapanda said:

exactly, I bought the 1.3 purely because thats what I prefered. Only one I didnt want was the 1.4, too thirsty and dont like 6 speed gearboxes... too many for me

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Well I got used to 6 speeds in my 156 V6, now that was thirsty

The 147 the 500 will replace does about 27mpg, so the 500 should be a substantial saving, even with the 1.4

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baldrick

I'll second that. Whichever model and engine you go for it's bound to be more economical than anything previous generation...except maybe the 1.4 Audi A2 diesel, a very unpopular but miraculous feat of inexpensive all-alloy engineering from the late 90's...