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Re: Murphio's Meanderings

Hi Peter,
I'm not sure if you bought a complete engine? I'm looking for a reconditioned engine from a reputable engineer. Your one seems to go pretty well (I struggle to hit 40!) can you can recommend anyone? Thanks,
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The term "reconditioned engine" is a long term much abused description along with "great little runner" & "low mileage" etc etc. It can mean anything from "it has been water blasted and now looks good" to the engine has been totally stripped , inspected by an engineer then rebuilt with all new parts where required. Either way you may still be dealing with some parts that are up to 60 years old in a rebuild. You could take a chance on a rebuilt unit but if you are able I would say have a go yourself if you are able to and you can call in experienced people when you need advice. Failing that get a reputable person to do this for you then at least you know what you have in the engine compartment at the end of the day.
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David, I will echo Toshi's advice.
I have had two engines in that car and stripped and reconditioned both of them; each time without feeling it necessary to have every component professional checked or machined. I have replaced some parts and with the first engine I fitted new pistons and had it rebored.
The current engine is a 650 and really does kick the car along. It accelerates to easily match most small modern cars and I am certain it will pass 70mph once I am brave enough to try.
The only reason the first engine failed on me was because the valve seats gave in and for a few months before that the performance had been deteriorating. In the days immediately before it kicked the bucket, I had one day when I struggled to hit 50mph which I blamed on a very strong headwind; I now think it was the valves.
You can remove the cylinder head whilst the engine is still in the car and it might be worth trying your hand at doing that. You can find out a lot about its condition and maybe pin down some causes of the problem from doing it. You may find it gives you confidence to go the whole way and if not, it would at least give you a "heads-up" before searching for an engineer. Of course all this assumes that you have already eliminated external causes of its lack of breath.
You're probably too far away from most of us to make it economical, but I think the best Fiat 500 engine and bodywork restorers are on this Forum and there are several I would be happy to have build me an engine if I didn't get such a kick out of it myself.
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Yes, I see your points and thanks for encouraging it. My compression has been lowish and without taking the engine apart I suspect general wear. I felt it better to pay someone who understands engines to do it and have less time off the road. I'm in the W. Mids where there are still plenty of engineering shops around. Its nice to see the pictures of your adventurous travels Peter!
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I'm in the W. Mids
I misunderstood and thought I was seeing the NZ flag waving under your moniker.
If in the UK there are plenty of places where you could get an exchange, rebuilt engine. You could minimise costs by getting a short engine without all the ancillaries.
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The odometer is now heading towards the 50,000 miles mark and we did a hectic 250 miles today towards Glencoe and Glen Etive. This is the time of year when you can see lots of other classic cars in the Highlands, but usually they are in big convoys for "safety" and camaraderie...I've just got Murf to rely on and he's just got me.
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250 miles, that's a lot of hours behind the wheel in one day. How's the 650 going, I bet you appreciate it on days like yesterday?

I'm making good progress on the two door range rover classic, but I'm still a few months a way from getting it on the road. Hopefully it will be done by the end of September.

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I'm making good progress on the two door range rover classic,
That looks excellent Steve. I hadn't realised just how much you could dismantle one of those...t looks like fun and would be very helpful if welding repairs were needed. You are faster than me with your restorations but I hpe you start rom better foundations.!

The 650 engine is much more of an advantage than I expected; the combination of faster accelereation, less (or no!) slogging on hills, easier high speed cruising, the ability to overtake when needed and maintain high speed when trapped with a convoy of other, more aggresisive drivers, has made journeys like this even more fun and not tiring at all.
I liken it to the effect of having a 1200 engine in a bigger car.
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That looks excellent Steve. I hadn't realised just how much you could dismantle one of those...t looks like fun and would be very helpful if welding repairs were needed. You are faster than me with your restorations but I hpe you start rom better foundations.!
Yes, fortunately coming from Grenada in Spain, it was light on the rust front. Rear seatbelt mounts on rear arches, rear window frame on LHS, minor patch to front inner wing and finally RHS footwell..



and as you say the steel frame on ladder chassis with outer panels does make for easy dismantling and good access though. Also hides a lot of sins on U.K. based RR's I just have the fun of LHD to RHD conversion to finish.

The awkward rear window frame section is the last piece to weld in. You can see the section cut out in this pic....



So compared to yours, very light on welding.

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