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Old 04-10-2016   #16
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Ooh 😊 can't wait. Is the D more solid than Franko, it look it in the picture but that could be misleading and probably is
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garage is under a few alterations at the moment in preparation for the D to come indoors again.
You mean poor old D has had to live outside.
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These houses we live in don't half get in the way ofour primary purpose in life.
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These are so cute!

I love them!
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Well lucky for Mr D that it has been a long dry summer in the SE of England.
Plenty of panel work to be replaced, so plenty more drilling, grinding, welding and hitting of the hammer
All I need now is for the /Euro to get in a better position
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All I need now is for the /Euro to get in a better position
If you're relying on that, better put old "D"elboy away for another long while.
From what I see, the panels are a good bit more painful on the wallet than the later ones in any case But if you were looking at it as an investment, the car will be worth a packet when finished.
Even more pictures (with the new camera?) this time please as an admirer of your work.
At least you don't have to rush things seeing as you have a functioning car already.
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Busy this weekend rebuilding the dynamo and starter this weekend.
Stripped the 500L dynamo apart. Gave it a good clean up and a lick of paint. The brushes and commutator were all in very good condition. Mind you the car hadn't done that many miles and the majority of mechanical parts were all very solid and serviceable. The bearings were nice and smooth and so I felt it best to keep the original ones.
Came out rather nice. just need to paint the pulley mount and purchase a new pulley. After my previous disaster using the old one, I realise some things just aren't worth keeping - not when there is a new one available.
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Now the starter motor.
I have 2 F/L starters, I had already rebuilt my L one before deciding to go with a 650 engine. However as I am using the D engine which has a slightly different block due to originally built using a 2 bolt starter, The L one doesn't quite fit and wouldn't look correct.
So I managed to find an original D one with 2 bolt holes. Bargain, I think it was about 12 for 3 starters and and L gearbox.
I stripped it apart and cleaned it up. Now the D as mentioned in the engine thread has a flywheel with less teeth and a different size clutch plate which means a slightly harsher clutch. So the theory was to use the L flywheel which meant changing over the Bendix from the later starter.
After checking that they all spun before dismantling, I cleaned all the parts and painted the body and started to assemble. Hmm, this isn't working.
On closer inspection the body and brush assembly are all the same. But the Bendix and armature are slightly different. The 2 splines are slightly deeper on the D one so the later Bendix wont fit. No problem I thought. Use the L armature. Still wont go together
It turns out that the Bendix outside diameter of the bearing part of the gear is larger diameter 40mm compared to the early 35mm. Also the 2 bolt housing is smaller diameter so the later Bendix wont spin out as far as required before hitting the housing
So I have 2 options. Use the original D flywheel, clutch and starter. Or see if I can use the later starter housing in the D bell housing and then remove the additional flange/ 3rd bolt hole to make it look like an early one.
Enough for tonight, think I will sleep on this one.
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Sorry I have nothing to contribute here; just a big thumbs-up to you for determination and high-quality work. It reminds me of my approach when I was restoring my pre-war car. Thank-goodness I came to my senses eventually and threw all thoughts of originality aside.
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Sorry I have nothing to contribute here; just a big thumbs-up to you for determination and high-quality work. It reminds me of my approach when I was restoring my pre-war car. Thank-goodness I came to my senses eventually and threw all thoughts of originality aside.
Its strange - I used to be into modifying everything. Now I have reverted back to keeping it all standard. Quite the opposite for you
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Busy afternoon
Stripped a 126 gearbox in preparation to build the gearbox for the D.
This was one which I got from the 3 wrecked 126's a couple of years ago. The gears are perfect, none of the usual wear on 1st or reverse.
I cleaned all the casing the best I can using petrol and a metal brush. Just needs a final clean up. I might check out vapour blasting as I saw some results at the London Classic car show that were really impressive. Otherwise its a could clean up with a wire brush and maybe a lick of aluminium paint.
I now need to whip out the D gearbox, strip it and check that it all lines up. Also need to see if the driveshafts are salvageable or if I need new ones.


All my engine cowlings and centre heater duct have all been blasted and primed - not bad for 45 all in
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Sean it's filthy that gearbox casing isn't it! I would be ashamed to put a picture of it on the forum. What do you reckon Peter??

I was just about to ask how much for the blasting and priming, then saw it at the end. Do you get mates rates or something?
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I do all my own "blast"-ing"......and "damn"-ing...saves me a fortune.
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Today the fun began!
I decided to start stripping some of the underseal in preparation for the shell to go to the blasters.
So I attacked the engine bay first. Removed all the items from the bay and used a heat gun and a scraper to remove the underseal. Then a good wash down with petrol & white spirit as they used a petroleum based product. Once you get past the paint the underseal will wash off.
This makes the engine bay much cleaner to work with and now shows all the areas that require a little sorting out.
There is slight damage to the centre above the gearbox, this will straighten.
The lower inner wing re-enforcers look ok, or at least a lot better then the L were, but that is mainly down to a slightly different set up in the construction. The lower 1/4 panels are still rusty though.
But the worst part is where the osr has had some impact damage and can now be clearly seen looking at the panel that sits near the exhaust. This will need to come off and be straightened and welded back on. But not until I give the rear end a light pull and sort out the rear seat floor. I will cover that later. The rear inner arch is also slightly distorted but that should come out when I give it a pull.
I also tackled the nsr wheel arch. Cleaned the sealer and underseal off, but forgot to take a clear picture before I put the wheel back on.
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Good start. Some nicely preserved inner panels should give you a solid base, at least at this end of the car.
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I'm also amazed by the condition of those panels and your tenacity in removing the gloop. But it does point to that antique soundproofing product being very effective (when used in hot and dry conditions! )
Have you revealed the original colour or is that the Fiat pink-primer?
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