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Old 04-07-2014   #31
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Re: Project Paolo

Mine is also the plastic type.
I had no problem removing it.
disconnect the wiring socket, unbolt the motor body bracket from the car.
remove the 2 plastic nuts.
move the motor until the drivers side (LHD) splined shaft is out of its hole, then pull the motor so that the small arm on the passenger side is fairly straight with the connecting arm, then you should be able to pull the drivers side splined shaft easy out of it hole and remove it all in one piece.

Worked for me with no problems & just tried putting it back in.
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Well I've got it out thanks to Seans suggestion. You wouldn't think I was an engineer. I wouldn't say it was as easy as Sean made out. The plastic screw thread scraped on the body hole and had got damaged but I think this is because the body hole was out of round. Will redress the holes and have a practice at refitting before the new paint job
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Good to hear Damian. Perseverance is the key on rebuilds.
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So a bit of advice/discussion needed please. To underseal the underneath and wheelarches or not? And if I do, do you do that first and then get it resprayed or vice versa? Surely you risk damaging the new paint by doing it afterwards? Who's gone sealed and who's gone bare?

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Damian, technically I think underseal or stone-chip paint, should really be used.
Being overpaintable you would probably be better doing stone-chip before painting and then you could even make it match the bodywork.. If you use traditional or waxy underseal I think you would be asking for problems with paint contamination so apply afterwards.

Personally, having seen how underbody treatments can trap moisture if imperfectly applied, I scraped it off, where it hadn't come off anyway or where I had used new panels. After degreasing and rust treatment I painted the whole underneath with "Rustseal"...like POR 15 that you hear more about. I think this is very resistant to chipping by stones although it does nothing to reduce "drumming".

At least I can see any rust if it forms and it doesn't stop me retro-fitting underseal. I have given rust prone areas an coating of Waxoyl.
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I agree with Peter. On my car I didn't have to replace any major metal work and the underside is coated in tarry under seal which in the ideal world I would like to have removed but it appears that underneath that it has been painted with an anti rust zinc primer, so there really wasn't a great deal to be gained from scrapping it all off.

My engine bay had been done in the same way but as it gets so hot the under seal used to melt and was just a gooey tarry mess so I did scrape it off.

I finished it with a paint called anti chip which has a slightly rubbery feel and a dimpled finished and can be sprayed over with whatever colour the car is going to be. If it was me I would do the whole of the underside with it and then paint over with primer and top coat.

Here's a few before and after shots. Cleaning the tarry under seal off was a night mare it went everywhere!!!!!

This is halfway through


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I'm half way through getting that tarry mess off my engine bay as well. It's a nightmare but well worth doing
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I left mine on. It was OK. I think I must be the only one though.
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I left mine on. It was OK. I think I must be the only one though.
Mine wasn't the original stuff Peter. My whole engine bay had been painted with a black bitumen based under seal like Waxoyl make, it was always slightly tacky because of the heat. As soon as you stuck your arm in the engine bay and slightly brushed the side you ended up covered in the stuff.
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So a bit of a landmark reached today in that I got all the doors apart and off and all the glass out! I reckon it's now the point of no return in that it's just as easy to carry on to the end rather than just put it all back together. So far I've not had a major showstopper and once you get into it it's actually quite enjoyable.
When getting the glass out the first one I tried was rear quarter. Struggled a bit and didn't want to be too forceful and end up breaking the glass so I cut the rubber. On the others I just ended up being a bit more forceful and they came out a treat. Think I'll replace all rubbers as a matter of course as they are all 48 years old! Attached some photos of where I'm up to now and that show the rusty areas. Comparing mine to some of the other restoration projects on here I think I've got it easy and I've caught it early, another couple of years and it could have been a different story. Saying that replacing a panel is the same if you've got a small hole or a great big one.
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Just got to remove the tunnel bits and take out all the cables and then I can move onto the underneath. Want to take everything off underneath and give it a good clean and respray.

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Good to see photos Damian. That really doesn't look too bad. Do you really need a load of full repair panels?
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I figure if I do it all now then I won't have to worry for another 48 years! If I'm doing one side I may as well do the other. Do it once properly and then get another project!
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Ah, the innocence of youth! These days I don't bother worrying beyond 25.
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Just you wait until you start cutting panels off, that's when the fun starts!
Just take your time and make sure you repair it properly & it will be well worth all the hard work.
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So not much progress since the last post but it's getting there (slowly). Got the last of the cables out that run through the tunnel. Dead easy getting them out as you just pull but I imagine a tad more difficult getting them back in again as you try to clip them all in place? How do you get to the clips inside the tunnel?
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Pictures aren't that exciting but I know how you lot like photos.
Starting to understand replacing panels a bit more now, just wish I could weld as I'd love to replace them myself. Should be starting on getting all the underneath stripped next. Want to clean and paint all the swing arms etc so it doesn't look crap against the new paint job

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