General 600 VIN identification

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General 600 VIN identification

Thanks, just very time consuming, will keep you posted from time to time.
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Seat 600 on Mallorca today...just for interest.
 

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Hi There,
I have a 1973 SEAT Fiat 600(D?) that I'm really having trouble figuring out the VIN number and what it means. The SEAT means that it is made in Spain, I believe (and all of the writing is in Spanish). But I can't make head or tail of the numbers.

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engine number:
chassis number
model number
Homologation number

Hi,
Yes, I can understand the Spanish.
What I mean is what do these numbers represent?
I'm interested in what kind of engine it has and where the vehicle was made.
Normally, 600 VIN numbers start with a 100 (indicating engine size).
This one starts with "OA".
Somewhere there is information regarding Spanish VIN numbers, I'm sure.
 
I'm getting this from a Spanish SEAT enthusiast website, so bear with me.

http://seat600.mforos.com/519035/4236018-numeros-de-bastidor-y-motor-lista/

It seems that 600 production began in Spain in 1957 with the A series 600.

From 1960 the 2nd series changed to B with a few variants - BA Saloon, BB Truck, BH Convertible BU Bare chassis for coachbuilders etc.

The chassis VINs ran sequentially from the first A series and the chassis types were all intermingled so it was possible to have, for example, BA-000.100 then BH-000.101 then BB-000.102.

All of the series produced after the first bear the leading B letter. To complicate matters, it seems that the last series (1968 to 1972) where the saloon was the BE model restarted the VIN numbers from zero.

If that isn't confusing enough, the engines seem a bit more mysterious. The first run had no letter designation. From 1960 they used BA and from 1963 up to final production they used DA. Don't know what happened to CA. This may match with the different engine configurations available during the Fiat 600 production run. The engines seem to have been sequentially number from the beginning.

So, I guess, your car has a late production DA motor (589941) in a late production BE series saloon (VIN 162336). When ordering parts in the day you quoted the number listed next to the Ricambio (spares) stamp 162336.

Not sure what the BY45 or maybe 8Y45 nor what the homologation number means. I'll keep looking around.

Chris
 
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Thanks Chris,
Great information.
Very interesting.
Hi All, I am from Poland and in the planed start of process of restoring a Fiat 600 Multipla.
I need some help on year & date of the car, all I have is a chasiss number 100D108 108456.
and engine no. 100R008 stamped on the inside right of the engine compartment.
Can anybody help?
 
Hi there

It's been at least 10 years since last on this forum and I'm hoping somebody can point me in the right direction.

Rightly or wrongly, I've just purchased a Zastava 750 and need help in dating it for uk registration.

I don't have any documents only the VIN.

Not been an issue before but Zastava aren't about any more to get a dating certificate from so any help in achieving this would be very grateful.

Thanks in advance

Matt
 
Hi everyone-I am a new member and I joined because I am trying to help a friend who does not 'do' the internet--I hope that is ok?

My friend has bought a 'Jolly' it is in generally good shape, runs and drives well but has a few weird points.

It is badged and registered as a 'Seat' but has all the correct (apparently) parts including 'Jolly' hubcaps and trim.

The vehicle was apparently shipped from Spain to Colombia in the seventies, where it was registered. In 2016 it was shipped to Vancouver by a Colombian who moved here. My friend bought it from him.

We are trying to figure out the year of the chassis. It is registered as a 1967 but we think it is earlier.

The chassis plate is different to others on this site-Can anyone tell us more? Is the chassis number the top row of numbers?
 

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please don't quote me.. what I express is an opinion based on my knowledge....
and Information that can be found by searching online...

Don't think that's a Genuine Ghia Jolly...
there were many copies afterwards that you could say were "Jokers of the Beach" (the translation of jolly "Spiaggina" )
and "Hubcaps maketh not the car..."
It has some points that are different to the Ghia Jollies converted by Carrozzeria Ghia..
Jollys never had the script on the hub caps
the Ghia badges are wrong
The rear side panels were never covered in an fabric or panel
the Side tubing isn't right..
It does not have Jolly bumpers
and there are many features of the Body conversion that are wrong.

The Seat 600 were made in Spain till 1973..
Sorry but not an expert on Seat production

Sorry if my opinion a (and that is all it is an opinion) is not what you wish to hear for your friend
A nice fun car non the less
there is a guy in the USA who has much more detailed knowledge on 600 Jolly's I can try to find his contact details... he will not give much info other than say if he considers it a genuine or fake..
He holds details of almost every 600 Jolly in the world that is known.
 
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Many thanks for your opinion Bigtwin. I would really appreciate it if you could find contact details for the expert in the USA.
 
This looks to be a period photo of an original Ghia Jolly based on the Fiat 600. Not sure if the Spanish Seat company ever had an agreement with Ghia or Fiat to distribute them under their own badge.

As you can see and as described above, there are quite a few detail differences between this car and your friend's car.

Still trying to find more information.

Chris

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Hmm, Thanks for that. My friends car has the holes where the front sidelights were-it was 'updated' in Colombia apparently. The trim on top of the windshield was added in the past two weeks to conceal the fact that the windshield is not laminated... The front grill is different but were there differences between various years?
The Seat badging is also a big question mark of course.


I have sent an email to Steve Pantieri who is apparently the wiz on these.
 
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