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I've attached a few photos taken by the guys at the panel shop during the repairs. There was a bit of rust in the body, but not a huge amount.

The last photo shows the car, complete with wind up key, on the flatbed truck that brought it home a couple of weeks ago. It went right through the centre of town like that.

As it left, all of the panelbeaters came out and waved it goodbye - I think that over the seven months that it was there, they all came to love it a little. I've noticed that these cars have that effect on people - they are happy cars and everyone who sees them, smiles. For that reason alone, they are worth restoring.

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It's been a long weekend here in Oz, with today celebrating the Queen's birthday - there are still some advantages to being a constitutional monarchy. Luckily I didn't have to work today and as a result have had 3 days in the garage assembling the Bambino. My wife even got in on the act yesterday.

So what did I do -

First job was to attach the hand brake cable so at least the car won't roll by accident.

Next, the wiring loom was wrapped in conduit and placed through the car and tested. Interestingly, my wiring uses 500L colours even though the car is a 1969 500F. I noticed this a few months ago when I was repairing the loom.

Sunday saw me fitting the new, lowered suspension. The front reverse eyed spring was a challenge - the car was just not heavy enough to compress the spring. The problem was fixed by placing a couple of bags of concrete in the front compartment which gave me enough weight to double jack the spring and attach it to the chassis. The rear springs are easy. Four new shocks and the suspension is complete.

Today, I assembled one door. Yep, I took me all day. I've discovered that whilst small cars are cute, they can be a pain in the b*m to work on because everything is close together.

Late this afternoon I wired up the headlights, front parking lights and indicators.

I've attached a few photos.

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A before and after of the front compartment.

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So jealous...

Looking forward to you finally getting finished because my million-dollar-question is going to be how much does this all cost when you're finished? Seeing as how I need to start looking at a total restoration in a few years and the cost associated with that!
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Chris,

two weeks ago it was at the panelbeaters. Now you have wiring, suspension, fuel tank, one door, handbrake and some ancillary cables done. I am sure there is more that I can't see. Can't wait for the next update as this looks as though it is just flowing along.

Make sure you make plenty install sequence notes. (I think the door fittings have to go in just the right way otherwise they are a real pain.) There are those amongst us that are going to pick your brains mercilessly.
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I've been lurking in this thread since it started, love the car and I absolutely love the red. It'd be nice to own a shining example of a car like this is going to be when it's done.
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two weeks ago it was at the panelbeaters. Now you have wiring, suspension, fuel tank, one door, handbrake and some ancillary cables done. I am sure there is more that I can't see. Can't wait for the next update as this looks as though it is just flowing along.

Make sure you make plenty install sequence notes. (I think the door fittings have to go in just the right way otherwise they are a real pain.) There are those amongst us that are going to pick your brains mercilessly.
Thanks. I get fairly focused when I get going - so much so, that I miss meals and forget to come inside when the sun goes down .....

Also, I've had many months to source new parts and prepare (degrease, repair etc.) the rest, so it becomes a relatively straightforward reassembly, though these cars still throw up challenges.

I've tried to remember to take good quality photos as I go along, so I have a pictorial diary of my progress - this helps me and hopefully will help others embarking on a similar project.

As to the cost - I don't even want to think about it. It is usually said that the cheapest labour cost is that of the previous owner. That is, I'll never realise the dollar value of my restoration, but then that is not the point. For me, it's not a commercial exercise and some of the reasons for doing all of this are to have fun, gain skills and achieve a sense of satisfaction in doing a job well. To my mind, these are priceless and if somehow I inspire someone else to tackle a similar project, all the better. If my family go without food for a few weeks, so be it

Having said all of that, I will keep a rough inventory of cost, but the financial variation between restorations has to be huge. I was lucky in that I found a car that was relatively straight, with little structural rust and in basic running condition. Some of the others out there must be much, much worse.

And finally to the lurkers out there, please post your comments and critique. Whilst I've done this before, there is still room for improvement and I'm always open to suggestions.

Regards to all,
Chris

PS: I'm still chasing a photo or diagram of the cable positions as they exit the cabin. If anyone has one, or can either take one of describe what they see, I'd be grateful.
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Convict,

are you talking about the cable exits (clutch, brake, throttle) etc out of the tunnel and into the engine bay?

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are you talking about the cable exits (clutch, brake, throttle) etc out of the tunnel and into the engine bay?

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Yep - exactly that.

I thought I had a photo, but I can't find it.

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That is a big ask.

So lets get this straight. You are expecting that someone else who is rebuiding an F has got the motor out, has taken a photo while the cables are still in, created and labelled a document, put a description on it and happens to be following your rebuild at this very moment as well?

Hang on, that's me. Hope this helps.

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Hang on, that's me. Hope this helps.

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Perfetto - molto grazie, mio amico.

I'll take a photo of the fixed fuel line this weekend and post it. I've made myself a new one as the old one was split and leaked a little bit of fuel.

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It's Sunday night and I've finished working on the car for the weekend.

I started Friday night by attempting to remove the steering arms (tie rods), steering box and idler for servicing. After much hammering, swearing and more hammering I had only managed to free each tie rod end where they connect to the hubs. I think that these are original and had become 'welded' on ...

Saturday saw me remove the steering box and idler as a unit and then press out the old tie rod ends without bending or destroying anything valuable. Both the box and idler were filthy. The box was still full of fairly rancid looking oil and luckily nothing within was worn. I replaced the seals, filled the box with a mixture of bearing grease and EP90 oil and put it aside while I cleaned, primed and painted the area under the front valance where they live. The idler needs new 'silent rubbers' and I've ordered a pair. In the mean time I've replaced everything loosely and fitted new tie rods.

Today I fitted the cables, tunnel grommets and the instrument binnacle. Thanks to Joe for his photo - it was a big help. The brake master cylinder was the last thing I did.

I'm away next weekend, so I won't be doing much for a couple of weeks - unless, of course, I get into it in the evenings

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About time, I have been hanging out to see your progress. Looking good.

Now a question without notice (just like Parliament). How did you manage the stripping work inside and under the car? Did your panelbeater do it, did you send the car to a stripper (for want of a better word) before the panelbater got it or was there a third option?

Keep up the great work, it will be a head turner in no time!

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Cripes - hanging out. Sh*t mate, you need to get out more

I initially stripped the car to a rolling shell that I delivered on a flatbed truck to my mate, the panelbeater. After he removed the front apron, he then had it delivered to a shotblasting business where the interior and exterior were blasted clean of dirt, grease, grime and paint. At that stage I'd covered the steering box and idler so as not to get them full of glass beads. That bit I did myself with a scraper and wire brush yesterday.

Having it shotblasted was the easiest, quickest and most convenient way of preparing the body shell. After blasting, the rusty bits were very obvious as were the amateur repairs with pop riveted tin cans.

Thereafter began the long saga of rust removal, forming and welding of new parts and panels, priming and finally painting and polishing. So far, touch wood, I've not yet scratched the paintwork.

Hope this answers your question. I guess I cheated here, as I didn't prepare the shell with paint remover and a brush like you did. I've never learned the black art of body preparation and panel beating, so it was just easier to pay to have someone else do it.

In a separate post, I've uploaded some photos of the fixed fuel line that you queried in your response to my cabling question. If I can figure out how to thank you on the forum for that photo, I'll do so.

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I've been at work this weekend so haven't had any time to do much with the car.

Friday night I finished hooking up the wiring loom and tested everything. A couple of dud earths were sorted out and voilą, the dreaded Italian electrics sparked into life. I replaced all of the bulbs and even managed to track down a couple of the original style headlight bulbs. The rear lights were rusty and the plastic partially melted so these have been replaced with new ones. Unfortunately, the new ones are of equally dubious quality

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